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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jason Wessel <jason.wessel@windriver.com>,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@redhat.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	kgdb-bugreport@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk v3 15/40] kdb: use srcu console list iterator
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2022 16:27:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y2vG8KZXBiw2TDLl@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wn848okk.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>

On Wed 2022-11-09 10:33:55, John Ogness wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> On 2022-11-09, Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> +	/*
> >> +	 * The console_srcu_read_lock() only provides safe console list
> >> +	 * traversal. The use of the ->write() callback relies on all other
> >> +	 * CPUs being stopped at the moment and console drivers being able to
> >> +	 * handle reentrance when @oops_in_progress is set. (Note that there
> >> +	 * is no guarantee for either criteria.)
> >> +	 */
> >
> > The debugger entry protocol does ensure that other CPUs are either
> > stopped or unresponsive. In the case where the other CPU is unresponsive
> > (e.g. timed out after being asked to stop) then there is a "real" printk()
> > issued prior to any of the above interference with the console system to
> > the developer driving the debugger gets as much clue as we can offer them
> > about what is going on (typically this is emitted from regular interrupt
> > context).
> >
> > Given this comment is part of the debugger code then for the
> > oops_in_progress hack it might be more helpful to describe what
> > the developer in front the debugger needs to do to have the most
> > reliable debug session possible.
> >
> >   There is no guarantee that every console drivers can handle reentrance
> >   in this way; the developer deploying the debugger is responsible for
> >   ensuring that the console drivers they have selected handle reentrance
> >   appropriately.
> 
> Thanks for the explanation. I will change the comment to:
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * The console_srcu_read_lock() only provides safe console list
> 	 * traversal. The use of the ->write() callback relies on all other
> 	 * CPUs being stopped at the moment and console drivers being able to
> 	 * handle reentrance when @oops_in_progress is set.
> 	 *
> 	 * There is no guarantee that every console driver can handle
> 	 * reentrance in this way; the developer deploying the debugger
> 	 * is responsible for ensuring that the console drivers they
> 	 * have selected handle reentrance appropriately.
> 	 */

Looks good to me.

After merging this with the 10th patch that adds the data_race() annotated
check of CON_ENABLED flag:

Reviewed-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-09 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-07 14:15 [PATCH printk v3 00/40] reduce console_lock scope John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:15 ` [PATCH printk v3 01/40] rcu: implement lockdep_rcu_enabled for !CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC John Ogness
2022-11-07 18:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-11-07 19:23     ` John Ogness
2022-11-08 19:27       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-11-09 17:49         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-11-08 10:29   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 02/40] serial: kgdboc: Lock console list in probe function John Ogness
2022-11-09  8:20   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 03/40] printk: Convert console_drivers list to hlist John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 04/40] printk: Prepare for SRCU console list protection John Ogness
2022-11-08 12:14   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 05/40] printk: fix setting first seq for consoles John Ogness
2022-11-08 12:20   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 06/40] um: kmsg_dump: only dump when no output console available John Ogness
2022-11-08 12:41   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 07/40] console: introduce console_is_enabled() wrapper John Ogness
2022-11-08 16:18   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-10 15:05     ` John Ogness
2022-11-11 13:32       ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 08/40] printk: use console_is_enabled() John Ogness
2022-11-08 17:40   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 09/40] um: kmsg_dump: " John Ogness
2022-11-09 14:52   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-09 14:56   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-09 14:57     ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 10/40] kdb: kdb_io: " John Ogness
2022-11-09  8:22   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-09 14:59   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 11/40] um: kmsg_dumper: use srcu console list iterator John Ogness
2022-11-09 15:05   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 12/40] tty: serial: kgdboc: document console_lock usage John Ogness
2022-11-09  8:23   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-09 15:19   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 13/40] tty: tty_io: " John Ogness
2022-11-09 15:20   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 14/40] proc: consoles: " John Ogness
2022-11-09 15:22   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 15/40] kdb: use srcu console list iterator John Ogness
2022-11-09  8:53   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-09  9:27     ` John Ogness
2022-11-09 15:27       ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 16/40] printk: console_flush_all: " John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 17/40] printk: console_unblank: " John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 18/40] printk: console_flush_on_panic: " John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 19/40] printk: console_device: " John Ogness
2022-11-09 15:58   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 20/40] printk: __pr_flush: " John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 21/40] printk: introduce console_list_lock John Ogness
2022-11-10 12:58   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 22/40] console: introduce console_is_registered() John Ogness
2022-11-10 13:00   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 23/40] serial_core: replace uart_console_enabled() with uart_console_registered() John Ogness
2022-11-08  8:46   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-10 13:24     ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-10 13:46       ` John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 24/40] tty: nfcon: use console_is_registered() John Ogness
2022-11-08  8:39   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-10 13:58   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-10 14:19     ` John Ogness
2022-11-10 17:50       ` Eero Tamminen
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 25/40] efi: earlycon: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 14:28   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 26/40] tty: hvc: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 14:52   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 27/40] tty: serial: earlycon: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:00   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 28/40] tty: serial: pic32_uart: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:01   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 29/40] tty: serial: samsung_tty: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:01   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 30/40] tty: serial: xilinx_uartps: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:04   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 31/40] usb: early: xhci-dbc: " John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:05   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 32/40] netconsole: avoid CON_ENABLED misuse to track registration John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:17   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 33/40] printk, xen: fbfront: create/use safe function for forcing preferred John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:34   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-10 16:03     ` John Ogness
2022-11-10 17:26       ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-10 22:37         ` John Ogness
2022-11-11 10:48   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 34/40] tty: tty_io: use console_list_lock for list synchronization John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 35/40] proc: consoles: use console_list_lock for list iteration John Ogness
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 36/40] tty: serial: kgdboc: use console_list_lock for list traversal John Ogness
2022-11-09  9:06   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-09  9:44     ` John Ogness
2022-11-10 18:00       ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 37/40] tty: serial: kgdboc: synchronize tty_find_polling_driver() and register_console() John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:13   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-10 18:03   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 38/40] tty: serial: kgdboc: use console_list_lock to trap exit John Ogness
2022-11-10 15:18   ` Daniel Thompson
2022-11-11  9:59   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 39/40] printk: relieve console_lock of list synchronization duties John Ogness
2022-11-07 16:30   ` John Ogness
2022-11-11 10:27     ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-11 13:06   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-07 14:16 ` [PATCH printk v3 40/40] tty: serial: sh-sci: use setup() callback for early console John Ogness
2022-11-08  8:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-11 17:15   ` Petr Mladek
2022-11-11 14:43 ` [PATCH printk v3 00/40] reduce console_lock scope Mathieu Desnoyers

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