From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Andreas Krebbel <krebbel@linux.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
svens@linux.ibm.com, gor@linux.ibm.com, sumanthk@linux.ibm.com,
hca@linux.ibm.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] perf list: Add PMU pai_ext event description for IBM z16
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 10:10:07 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3OPr3oIwld5omGu@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c1f8de28-1948-85b1-cd85-5bbd301e22bc@linux.ibm.com>
Em Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 09:58:22AM +0100, Thomas Richter escreveu:
> On 11/14/22 17:06, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > Em Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 02:54:02PM +0100, Thomas Richter escreveu:
> >> Add the event description for the IBM z16 pai_ext PMU released with
> >> commit c432fefe8e62 ("s390/pai: Add support for PAI Extension 1 NNPA counters")
> >> The document SA22-7832-13 "z/Architecture Principles of Operation",
> >> published May, 2022, contains the description of the Processor
> >> Activity Instrumentation Facility and the NNPA counter set., See
> >> Pages 5-113 to 5-116.
> >> Signed-off-by: Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>
> >> --- /dev/null
> >> +++ b/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/s390/cf_z16/pai_ext.json
> >> @@ -0,0 +1,198 @@
> >> +[
> >> + {
> >> + "Unit": "PAI-EXT",
> >> + "EventCode": "6144",
> >> + "EventName": "NNPA_ALL",
> >> + "BriefDescription": "NNPA ALL",
> >> + "PublicDescription": "Sum of all non zero NNPA counters"
> >> + },
> > Since the Brief description mentions NNPA, shouldn't the Public
> > Description expand on this "NNPA" acronym?, something like:
> > Oops, can't expand on that since there isn't a link to that SA22-7832-13
> > document.
> > Googling for it...
> > https://www-40.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc03100.nsf/pages/zResourceLinkUrl?OpenDocument&url=http://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/lib03010.nsf/0/B9DE5F05A9D57819852571C500428F9A/$file/SA22-7832-13.pdf
> > Ok, requires registration.
> > I wonder what is the value of these descriptions then :-\
> > I miss Ingo jumping into these discussions :-)
> I added Andreas Krebbel to the discussion, he knows more than I on this counters.
> NNPA stands for Neural Networks Processing Assist. This is a new feature in
> the IBM z16. Here is a quote from Document SG2489-51 IBM z16 (3931) Technical Guide:
> <START-OF-QUOTE>
> "The new IBM z16 microprocessor chip, also called the IBM Telum processor, integrates a
> new AI accelerator. This innovation brings incredible value to applications and workloads that
> are running on IBM Z platform.
> Customers can benefit from the integrated AI accelerator by adding AI operations that are
> used to perform fraud prevention and fraud detection, customer behavior predictions, and
> supply chain operations. All of these operations are done in real time and fully integrated in
> transactional workloads. As a result, valuable insights are gained from their data instantly.
>
> ...
> The AI accelerator is driven by the new Neural Networks Processing Assist (NNPA)
> instruction.
> NNPA is a new nonprivileged Complex Instruction Set Computer (CISC) memory-to-memory
> instruction that operates on tensor objects that are in user program’s memory. AI functions
> and macros are abstracted by NNPA."
> <END-OF-QUOTE>
>
> This intension of this patch is to give a small hint on what these NNPA counters are
> supposed to count and operate on. A full explanation is given in the document
> SA22-7832-13 "z/Architecture Principles of Operation", Chapter 26, pp 26-1 to 26-115.
>
> If you think this small description is not worth it, then we can drop the patch.
So perhaps:
+ {
+ "Unit": "PAI-EXT",
+ "EventCode": "6144",
+ "EventName": "NNPA_ALL",
+ "BriefDescription": "NNPA ALL",
+ "PublicDescription": "Sum of all non zero NNPA (Neural Networks Processing Assist) counters"
+ },
?
- Arnaldo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-15 13:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-11 13:54 [PATCH v2] perf list: Add PMU pai_ext event description for IBM z16 Thomas Richter
2022-11-14 16:06 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2022-11-15 8:58 ` Thomas Richter
2022-11-15 13:10 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2022-11-15 16:34 ` Thomas Richter
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