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From: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: John Keeping <john@metanate.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	balbi@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] usb: gadget: f_hid: Conduct proper refcounting on shared f_hidg pointer
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 12:30:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3tvdYKifmMKDhk8@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3qSImZkZwCG1kA1@rowland.harvard.edu>

On Sun, 20 Nov 2022, Alan Stern wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 05:22:19PM +0000, John Keeping wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 04:07:24PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 04:37:32PM +0000, John Keeping wrote:
> > > > I don't think it's at all simple to fix this - I posted a series
> > > > addressing the lifetime issues here a few years ago but didn't chase it
> > > > up and there was no feedback:
> > > > 
> > > > 	https://lore.kernel.org/linux-usb/20191028114228.3679219-1-john@metanate.com/
> > > > 
> > > > That includes a patch to remove the embedded struct cdev and manage its
> > > > lifetime separately, which I think is needed as there are two different
> > > > struct device objects here and we cannot tie their lifetimes together.
> > > 
> > > I still don't have a clear picture of what the real problem is.  Lee's 
> > > original patch description just said "external references are presently 
> > > not tracked", with no details about what those external references are. 
> > > Why not add just proper cdev_get() and cdev_put() calls to whatever code 
> > > handles those external references, so that they _are_ tracked?
> > > 
> > > What are the two different struct device objects?  Why do their 
> > > lifetimes need to be tied together?  If you do need to tie their 
> > > lifetimes somehow, why not simply make one of them (the one which is 
> > > logically allowed to be shorter-lived) hold a reference to the other?
> > 
> > The problem is that we have a struct cdev embedded in f_hidg but the
> > lifetime of f_hidg is not tied to any kobject so we can't solve this in
> > the right way by setting the parent kobject of the cdev.
> > 
> > While refcounting struct f_hidg is necessary, it's not sufficient
> > because the only way to keep it alive long enough for the final
> > kobject_put() on the embedded cdev is to tie the lifetime to a kobject
> > of its own and there is no suitable object as this is not the model
> > followed by gadget function instances.
> 
> I see.  The solution is simple: Embed a struct device in struct f_hidg, 
> and call cdev_device_add() to add the device and the cdev.  This will 
> automatically make the device the parent of the cdev, so the device's 
> refcount won't go to 0 until the cdev's refcount does.  Then you can tie 
> the f_hidg's lifetime to the device's, so the device's release routine 
> can safely deallocate the entire f_hidg structure.
> 
> The parent of the new struct device should be set to &gadget->dev.  If 
> you can't think of a better name for the device, you could simply append 
> ":I" to the parent's name, where I is the interface number, or even 
> append ":C.I" where C is the config number (like we do on the host 
> side).

Thanks for the suggestions Alan.

Not long finished speaking with Greg about this.  He seems okay with
the approach.  I'll knock something together and get a "v1" (*wink*)
out shortly.

-- 
Lee Jones [李琼斯]

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-21 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-17 12:08 [PATCH 1/1] usb: gadget: f_hid: Conduct proper refcounting on shared f_hidg pointer Lee Jones
2022-11-17 12:50 ` Greg KH
2022-11-17 13:26   ` Lee Jones
2022-11-17 17:38     ` Greg KH
2022-11-17 12:50 ` Greg KH
2022-11-17 13:46   ` Lee Jones
2022-11-17 16:47     ` Alan Stern
2022-11-18  8:54       ` Lee Jones
2022-11-18 15:59         ` Alan Stern
2022-11-18 16:37           ` John Keeping
2022-11-18 21:07             ` Alan Stern
2022-11-20 17:22               ` John Keeping
2022-11-20 20:46                 ` Alan Stern
2022-11-21 12:30                   ` Lee Jones [this message]
2022-11-21 12:38                   ` John Keeping
2022-11-21 16:18                     ` Alan Stern
2022-11-21 18:54                       ` John Keeping
2022-11-21 19:17                         ` Alan Stern
2022-11-22 11:52                           ` John Keeping
2022-11-22  8:31                         ` Lee Jones
2022-11-22 11:55                           ` John Keeping
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2022-10-17 11:27 Lee Jones
2022-10-22 12:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-10-24  7:17   ` Lee Jones

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