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McKenney" Cc: "stern@rowland.harvard.edu" , Jonas Oberhauser , "parri.andrea@gmail.com" , "will@kernel.org" , "peterz@infradead.org" , "npiggin@gmail.com" , "dhowells@redhat.com" , "j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk" , "luc.maranget@inria.fr" , "akiyks@gmail.com" , "dlustig@nvidia.com" , "joel@joelfernandes.org" , "urezki@gmail.com" , "quic_neeraju@quicinc.com" , "frederic@kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tools: memory-model: Make plain accesses carry dependencies Message-ID: References: <20221202125100.30146-1-jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com> <4262e55407294a5989e766bc4dc48293@huawei.com> <20221203190226.GR4001@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> <20221203204405.GW4001@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20221203204405.GW4001@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Dec 03, 2022 at 12:44:05PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Sat, Dec 03, 2022 at 03:34:20PM -0500, stern@rowland.harvard.edu wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 03, 2022 at 11:02:26AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 03, 2022 at 11:58:36AM +0000, Jonas Oberhauser wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Boqun Feng [mailto:boqun.feng@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 7:50 PM > > > > > > > > I wonder is this patch a first step to solve the OOTA problem you reported in OSS: > > > > > https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/osseu2022/e1/oss-eu22-jonas.pdf > > > > > If so maybe it's better to put the link in the commit log I think. > > > > > > > > It's not directly related to that specific problem, it does solve some other OOTA issues though. > > > > If you think we should link to the talk, there's also a video with slightly more updated slides from the actual talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDKhIxKhoQ > > > > do you think I should link to both then? > > > > > > It is not hard for me to add that in if people believe that it should be > > > included. But default is lazy in this case. ;-) > > > > I don't think there's any need to mention that video in the commit log. > > It's an introductory talk, and it's pretty safe to assume that anyone > > reading the commit because they are interested in the LKMM in great > > detail is already beyond the introductory level. > > > > On the other hand, it wouldn't hurt to include a Link: tag to an > > appropriate message in this email thread. (I leave it up to Paul to > > decide which message is most "appropriate" -- there may not be a good > > candidate, because a lot of the messages were not CC'ed to LKML.) > > For this approach, I would add this: > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/4262e55407294a5989e766bc4dc48293@huawei.com/ > > I could of course do both the extra paragraph -and- the Link:. ;-) > > Thoughts? > I think only having Link: is fine ;-) And I agree with Alan, no need to mention that video. Thank you! Regards, Boqun > Thanx, Paul