Re: [PATCH v5 3/8] dt-bindings: media: add bindings for TI DS90UB913

Tomi Valkeinen
2023-01-04T08:13:11Z

On 26/12/2022 18:46, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Tomi,
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 03:36:49PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>> On 11/12/2022 19:21, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 07:13:10PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 12:40:01PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
>>>>> Add DT bindings for TI DS90UB913 FPDLink-3 Serializer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> .../bindings/media/i2c/ti,ds90ub913.yaml | 121 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> 1 file changed, 121 insertions(+)
>>>>> create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/ti,ds90ub913.yaml
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/ti,ds90ub913.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/ti,ds90ub913.yaml
>>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>>> index 000000000000..3a5b34c6bb64
>>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/ti,ds90ub913.yaml
>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,121 @@
>>>>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
>>>>> +%YAML 1.2
>>>>> +---
>>>>> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/i2c/ti,ds90ub913.yaml#
>>>>> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
>>>>> +
>>>>> +title: Texas Instruments DS90UB913 FPD-Link 3 Serializer
>>>>
>>>> I think TI consistently writes it "FPD-Link III". If you rename it,
>>>> please do so through the whole series.
>>>>
>>>>> +
>>>>> +maintainers:
>>>>> + - Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>
>>>>> +
>>>>> +description:
>>>>> + The TI DS90UB913 is an FPD-Link 3 video serializer for parallel video.
>>>>> +
>>>>> +properties:
>>>>> + compatible:
>>>>> + enum:
>>>>> + - ti,ds90ub913a-q1
>>>>
>>>> Is the -q1 suffix needed, are there other variants ?
>>>>
>>>>> +
>>>>> + '#gpio-cells':
>>>>> + const: 2
>>>>> +
>>>>> + gpio-controller: true
>>>>> +
>>>>> + clocks:
>>>>> + maxItems: 1
>>>>> + description:
>>>>> + Reference clock connected to the CLKIN pin.
>>>>> +
>>>>> + clock-names:
>>>>> + items:
>>>>> + - const: clkin
>>>>> +
>>>>> + '#clock-cells':
>>>>> + const: 0
>>>>> +
>>>>> + ports:
>>>>> + $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
>>>>> +
>>>>> + properties:
>>>>> + port@0:
>>>>> + $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
>>>>> + unevaluatedProperties: false
>>>>> + description: CSI-2 input port
>>>
>>> This should be "Parallel input port".
>>
>> Oops...
>>
>>>>> +
>>>>> + properties:
>>>>> + endpoint:
>>>>> + $ref: /schemas/media/video-interfaces.yaml#
>>>>> + unevaluatedProperties: false
>>>
>>> Should at least the bus-width property be mandatory, as the device
>>> supports both 10- and 12-bit inputs ?
>>
>> Hmm... It supports 10-bit, 12-bit HF and 12-bit LF modes. If we need to
>> configure the mode based on DT, we need one more property for the HF/LF.
>> Then again, the HF/LF is separate from the input port, it's more about
>> internal operation and the link to the deserializer.
>>
>> However, this (the mode) should always be set in the HW via the MODE
>> pins. And the driver can read the HW's MODE from the registers. Only in
>> some very odd circumstances should the mode be configured by hand (and
>> then carefully, as the link to the deserializer will drop).
>
> Both the DS90UB913A and DS90UB913Q datasheets state that the MODE pin on
> the serializer only selects between PCLK and external oscillator modes.
>
> The DS90UB913A datasheet seems to hint in documentation of the mode
> select register (0x05) that the mode is selected on the deserializer and
> transmitted to the serializer through the back-channel, as the
> MODE_OVERRIDE bit is documented as "Allows overriding mode select bits
> coming from back-channel" and the MODE_UP_TO_DATE bit as "Status of mode
> select from Deserializer is up-to- date". Bits 2 and 3 are however named
> "Pin_MODE_12-bit High Frequency" and "Pin_MODE_10-bit mode", which hint
> that their value could come from a mode pin, but I see no trace of that
> anywhere.
>
> The DS90UB913Q datasheet is similar, with a notable difference in that
> it documents bits 1 and 0 as reserved, where the DS90UB913A datasheet
> documents them as mode override selection. In the same document, the
> DS90UB914Q MODE pin is documented as selecting the 10-bit, 12-bit LF or
> 12-bit HF operation mode. The datasheet also states that "The
> deserializer automatically configures the serializer to correct mode
> through the back-channel".
>
> Th DS90UB953 datasheet also hints in the documentation of the
> BC_MODE_SELECT register (0x04) that the mode is configured automatically
> for backward-compatible DVP mode. For CSI-2 mode, I assume the mode is
> strapped from the MODE pin and not configured through the back-channel.
>
> The DS90UB960 datasheet documents how to configure the mode on the
> deserializer side, but doesn't state whether the serializer is then
> automatically configured through the back-channel (in RAW/DVP mode). I
> assume it is, do you have any information about this ?

I have to admit I had missed the mode management of the RAW mode while
going through all this. I had mostly looked at the UB953's CSI mode.

I don't have more information, but your analysis looks correct to me. So
the whole mode thing is an interesting mix of serializer & deserializer
HW straps, deserializer sending the (RAW) mode to the serializer, and
then the override registers on the serializer side.

As to the original question, should we have mandatory bus-width for
ub913... I don't think it would be useful, even after the updated
understanding about modes. Do you agree?

>> So the bus-width is not something that the driver would normally use. If
>> we would need to define the bus-width and HF/LF in the DT for some
>> reason in the future, I think an "old" DT without those specified should
>> continue working fine, as the mode can be read from a register.
>>
>> That said, to complicate matters, the deserializer needs to know the
>> serializer's mode before it can communicate with it (and thus, before we
>> can read the mode). This is set with the deserializer's "ti,rx-mode"
>> property, where you find RAW10, RAW12LF and RAW12HF modes (and for
>> ub953, CSI-2 sync and non-sync modes).
>>
>> So if we would define the bus-width and HF/LF in ub913's properties, the
>> deserializer could go peeking the mode from there. But is that a good
>> idea... I'm not so sure.
>
> Peeking into another device's DT node isn't great. It looks like the
> best option for the DS90UB913 is to specify the mode on the
> deserializer's side (either through the MODE strap or with a software
> override through DT). In case the serializer mode would need to be
> manually overridden in the future, we could add an optional DT property.

I don't like the mode strap on UB960 side, as it's for all ports. It
works in certain cases, of course, but if we anyway need the mode in DT
to allow port-specific configuration, I think it's just easier to always
require the DT mode and always use that, overriding the strap mode.

Tomi