From: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>,
Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 1/2] bpf/perf: Call perf_prepare_sample() before bpf_prog_run()
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 08:53:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y6VefZAWVzwmkfjd@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM9d7chi6ijPEwkTbmLJGz+_fQFvnFxwc44M-g93ym2-ZPN9tw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 02:25:49PM -0800, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 12:16 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 09:34:42AM -0800, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry about that. Let me rephrase it like below:
> > >
> > > With bpf_cast_to_kern_ctx(), BPF programs attached to a perf event
> > > can access perf sample data directly from the ctx.
> >
> > This is the bpf_prog_run() in bpf_overflow_handler(), right?
>
> Yes.
>
> >
> > > But the perf sample
> > > data is not fully prepared at this point, and some fields can have invalid
> > > uninitialized values. So it needs to call perf_prepare_sample() before
> > > calling the BPF overflow handler.
> >
> > It never was, why is it a problem now?
>
> BPF used to allow selected fields only like period and addr, and they
> are initialized always by perf_sample_data_init(). This is relaxed
> by the bpf_cast_to_kern_ctx() and it can easily access arbitrary
> fields of perf_sample_data now.
>
> The background of this change is to use BPF as a filter for perf
> event samples. The code is there already and returning 0 from
> BPF can drop perf samples. With access to more sample data,
> it'd make more educated decisions.
>
> For example, I got some requests to limit perf samples in a
> selected region of address (code or data). Or it can collect
> samples only if some hardware specific information is set in
> the raw data like in AMD IBS. We can easily extend it to other
> sample info based on users' needs.
>
> >
> > > But just calling perf_prepare_sample() can be costly when the BPF
> >
> > So you potentially call it twice now, how's that useful?
>
> Right. I think we can check data->sample_flags in
> perf_prepare_sample() to minimize the duplicate work.
> It already does it for some fields, but misses others.
we used to have __PERF_SAMPLE_CALLCHAIN_EARLY to avoid extra perf_callchain,
could we add some flag like __PERF_SAMPLE_INIT_EARLY to avoid double call to
perf_prepare_sample?
jirka
>
> Thanks,
> Namhyung
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-23 7:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-20 22:01 [PATCH bpf-next 0/2] bpf: Allow access to perf sample data (v2) Namhyung Kim
2022-12-20 22:01 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/2] bpf/perf: Call perf_prepare_sample() before bpf_prog_run() Namhyung Kim
2022-12-22 12:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-22 13:17 ` Daniel Borkmann
2022-12-22 17:34 ` Namhyung Kim
2022-12-22 20:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-22 22:25 ` Namhyung Kim
2022-12-23 7:53 ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2022-12-27 23:19 ` Namhyung Kim
2022-12-20 22:01 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/2] selftests/bpf: Add perf_event_read_sample test cases Namhyung Kim
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