From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, tj@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
zhiquan1.li@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC OOM path to forcefully reclaim EPC
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 20:43:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y6oHjrLCbDzWh7nE@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y5duYxIHtSpK1qkj@google.com>
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 06:09:39PM +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 09, 2022, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 12/9/22 08:05, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
> > > Aside from that though, I don't think that killing enclaves makes sense
> > > outside the context of cgroup limits.
> >
> > I think it makes a lot of sense in theory. Whatever situation we get
> > into with a cgroup's EPC we can also get into with the whole system's EPC.
> >
> > *But*, it's orders of magnitude harder to hit on the whole system.
>
> ...
>
> > If someone wants to extend this OOM support to system-wide EPC later, then go
> > ahead. But, I don't think it makes a lot of sense to invert this series for
> > it.
>
> +1 from the peanut gallery. With VMM EPC oversubscription suport, no sane VMM
> will oversubscribe VEPC pages. And for VA pages, supporting swap of VA pages is
> likely a more userspace-friendly approach if system-wide EPC OOM is a concern.
When swapping VA pages the topology of the VA page cache for swapped VA
pages is the main question. It is compromise between how long swap-in and
swap-out can take, and how generic solution it be, meaning how deep
hierarchies you want to build, or is just a flat list of parent VA pages
"good enough".
Also, there's the question whether it should be a global cache, per cgroup
and so forth.
Implementing any solution is not overly complicated. Locking in these
options is what puzzles me.
BR, Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-26 20:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-02 18:36 [PATCH v2 00/18] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] x86/sgx: Call cond_resched() at the end of sgx_reclaim_pages() Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 21:33 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-02 21:37 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 21:45 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-02 22:17 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 22:37 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] x86/sgx: Store struct sgx_encl when allocating new VA pages Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 21:35 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-02 21:40 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 21:48 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-02 22:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-02 22:47 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-02 22:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] x86/sgx: Add 'struct sgx_epc_lru_lists' to encapsulate lru list(s) Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 21:39 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-08 15:31 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-08 18:03 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] x86/sgx: Use sgx_epc_lru_lists for existing active page list Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 21:43 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-02 21:51 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 22:10 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] x86/sgx: Track epc pages on reclaimable or unreclaimable lists Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 22:13 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-02 22:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] x86/sgx: Introduce RECLAIM_IN_PROGRESS flag for EPC pages Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 22:15 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-08 15:46 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-08 18:13 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] x86/sgx: Use a list to track to-be-reclaimed pages during reclaim Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 22:33 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-05 16:33 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-05 17:03 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-05 18:25 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] x86/sgx: Allow reclaiming up to 32 pages, but scan 16 by default Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-08 9:26 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-08 9:27 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] x86/sgx: Return the number of EPC pages that were successfully reclaimed Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-08 9:30 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] x86/sgx: Add option to ignore age of page during EPC reclaim Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-08 9:37 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] x86/sgx: Prepare for multiple LRUs Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-08 9:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] x86/sgx: Expose sgx_reclaim_pages() for use by EPC cgroup Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-08 9:46 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] x86/sgx: Add helper to grab pages from an arbitrary EPC LRU Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-08 9:56 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC OOM path to forcefully reclaim EPC Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-08 15:21 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-09 16:05 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-09 16:22 ` Dave Hansen
2022-12-12 18:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-12-26 20:43 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] cgroup/misc: Add per resource callbacks for css events Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-08 14:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-08 15:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] cgroup/misc: Prepare for SGX usage Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-08 15:23 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 17/18] x86/sgx: Add support for misc cgroup controller Kristen Carlson Accardi
2022-12-08 15:30 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-12-02 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 18/18] Docs/x86/sgx: Add description for cgroup support Kristen Carlson Accardi
2023-04-03 21:26 ` [EXTERNAL] [PATCH v2 00/18] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Anand Krishnamoorthi
2023-04-13 18:49 ` Anand Krishnamoorthi
2023-04-18 16:44 ` Mikko Ylinen
2023-04-27 16:53 ` Anand Krishnamoorthi
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