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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Hang Zhang <zh.nvgt@gmail.com>
Cc: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fbmem: prevent potential use-after-free issues with console_lock()
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 23:46:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y7ik3ONV5ba7UXQB@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO2zrtY+mMBTLimW6aZhOGFqqw53EVdP0CT8ieW6iVUXevZ7ag@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 06, 2023 at 05:12:57PM -0500, Hang Zhang wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 4:19 PM Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 06, 2023 at 03:25:14PM -0500, Hang Zhang wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 3:05 PM Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2023 at 02:58:27PM -0500, Hang Zhang wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 1:59 PM Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > > > > BTW, if this is worthed a fix and the performance of console_lock() is a
> > > > > major concern, then I think there may be alternative solutions like adding
> > > > > a lock_fb_info() to the free call chain - if that's better in performance,
> > > > > or maybe selectively protect the matroxfb ioctl but not vblank ioctl as you
> > > > > mentioned.
> > > >
> > > > Please start out with explaining what kind of bug your checker is seeing,
> > > > and why. Not how you're trying to fix it. Because I'm pretty sure there
> > > > isn't a bug, but since I've already spent a pile of time looking at this,
> > > > I want to make sure.
> > >
> > > We are sorry for the inconvenience caused, we'll follow these practices and
> > > guidelines in the future. Thank you!
> >
> > Once more: Please explain what you're static checker is seeing. I want to
> > understanding this, and I'm hoping at least someone involved in this
> > static checker can explain what it thinks is going on.
> >
> > Thanks, Daniel
> > --
> > Daniel Vetter
> > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > http://blog.ffwll.ch
> 
> Thank you for your interest, Daniel. The checker tries first to find
> the free and
> use sites of a certain object (in this case "fb_info"), then reason
> about whether
> the use can actually happen after the free (e.g., taking into account
> factors like
> state set/check, locks, etc.), if so, it will flag a potential
> use-after-free. As a static
> checker, is doesn't execute a program or generate a PoC. We then manually
> review each flagged issue by inspecting all related code. In this
> case, the checker
> (and us) are unaware of the lifetime management logic, which may cause
> problems.

Lifetime management is and absolute basic part in the linux kernel. So if
your checker flags every free which isn't protected by a lock, then you'll
creating endless amounts of false positives. Is this really what you're
doing?

I'm still very confused ...
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-06 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-30  6:35 [PATCH] fbmem: prevent potential use-after-free issues with console_lock() Hang Zhang
2023-01-02 15:28 ` Helge Deller
2023-01-05 10:21   ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-05 10:25     ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-05 18:38       ` Hang Zhang
2023-01-06 18:59         ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-06 19:58           ` Hang Zhang
2023-01-06 20:05             ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-06 20:25               ` Hang Zhang
2023-01-06 21:19                 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-01-06 22:12                   ` Hang Zhang
2023-01-06 22:46                     ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2023-01-06 23:19                       ` Hang Zhang

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