From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2324EC677F1 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2023 08:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229699AbjANI1v (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Jan 2023 03:27:51 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:37750 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229571AbjANI1p (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Jan 2023 03:27:45 -0500 Received: from ams.source.kernel.org (ams.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4601:e00::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C4DF59DF for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2023 00:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ams.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C8DFB8075A for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2023 08:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3CC62C433D2; Sat, 14 Jan 2023 08:26:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1673684770; bh=AfDe41uy1V7K3U3P9L5xIYaJ/vF5JFektelnpV5N+wk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=bKMT6lIAZhaEr0oPDrySRwwTDnko4WNfXkQDxwPownF54HfAXt2mgI18eSLD0UrUL ywGLctUPg1hsgtJ4B8wXode90vP6vypKznt7FB5+79k6z/6BsiGFfdeFDHIicw5F9v k2+X3hQElL+rphOFHbxzI1S5n3p+CcNsso2VH1mc= Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2023 09:26:07 +0100 From: Greg KH To: Willy Tarreau Cc: Theodore Ts'o , Michal Simek , Kris Chaplin , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Reg the next LTS kernel (6.1?) Message-ID: References: <96e41e6d-bec9-f8cf-22ed-1fa5d9022238@amd.com> <314489f6-cb54-fb3b-6557-d69b1284fa4d@amd.com> <20230114071412.GB5088@1wt.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230114071412.GB5088@1wt.eu> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 08:14:12AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 04:40:19PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 05:22:56PM +0100, Greg KH wrote: > > > > I am just saying that developers/driver owners can simple do calculation to > > > > identify LTS version. When they know it they also know time when their > > > > deadline is for upstreaming work. It means if patch is accepted between > > > > 6.0-r1 and 6.0-rc5/6 they know that it will get to 6.1 merge window. > > > > > > That is what I am afraid of and if it causes problems I will purposfully > > > pick the previous release. This has happened in the past and is never > > > an excuse to get anything merged. Code gets merged when it is ready, > > > not based on a LTS release. > > > > This is probably the best reason not to preannounce when the LTS > > release will be ahead of time --- because it can be abused by > > developers who try to get not-ready-for-prime-time features into what > > they think will be the LTS kernel, with the result that the last > > release of the year could be utterly unsitable for that perpose. > > We know this risk exists but since Greg never makes promises on any > version, it remains reasonable. I have to _not_ make promises because in the past when I did, people threw crap into the kernel with the "justification" that they had to get it in this specific kernel because it was going to be the LTS one. We can't have nice things, because people abuse it :( greg k-h