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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: "Zhang, Qiang1" <qiang1.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	quic_neeraju@quicinc.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] rcu: Remove impossible wakeup rcu GP kthread action from rcu_report_qs_rdp()
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 00:04:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y8seE8Tr1w0UWf+m@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B3E458A6-9279-4716-B242-873C77EC1E3A@joelfernandes.org>

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 08:27:03AM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> 
> Sure, I know what the code currently does, I am asking why and it feels wrong.
> 
> I suggest you slightly change your approach to not assuming the code should be bonafide correct and then fixing it (which is ok once in a while), and asking higher level questions to why things are the way they are in the first place (that is just my suggestion and I am not in a place to provide advice, far from it, but I am just telling you my approach — I care more about the code than increasing my patch count :P).
> 
> If you are in an intermediate state, part way to a !nocb state — you may have
> missed a nocb-related accel and wake, correct? Why does that matter? Once we
> transition to a !nocb state, we do not do a post-qs-report accel+wake anyway
> as we clearly know from the discussion.

I'm confused. We are doing that acceleration on qs report for !nocb CPU, right?

> So why do we need to do it if we
> missed it for the intermediate stage? So, I am not fully sure yet what that
> needac is doing and why it is needed.

To summarize:

* If the CPU is NOCB, all the callbacks advance and acceleration is performed
  by the rcuo/rcuog kthreads.

* If the CPU is not NOCB, all the callbacks acceleration is performed by the
  CPU, such as in the case of rcu_report_qs_rdp().

* If the CPU is transitionning from NOCB to !NOCB or from !NOCB to NOCB, the
  kthreads may not be available to do the advance/acceleration, so we must do
  it locally. That's the needacc path.

What am I missing?

Thanks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-20 23:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-18  7:30 [PATCH v3] rcu: Remove impossible wakeup rcu GP kthread action from rcu_report_qs_rdp() Zqiang
2023-01-18 10:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-01-18 18:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-01-18 23:30   ` Zhang, Qiang1
2023-01-20  3:14   ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-20  3:17     ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-20  4:09     ` Zhang, Qiang1
2023-01-20  4:40       ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-20  8:19         ` Zhang, Qiang1
2023-01-20 13:27           ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-20 20:33             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-01-20 22:35               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-01-20 23:20                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-01-20 23:04             ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2023-01-23 15:22               ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-23 16:27                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-01-23 20:54                   ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-23 21:11                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-01-24 16:58                       ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-21  0:38             ` Zhang, Qiang1
2023-01-24 17:10               ` Joel Fernandes

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