From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Converting dev->mutex into dev->spinlock ?
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2023 11:27:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y96HiYcreb8jZIHi@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cf56ebc3-187a-6ee4-26bc-2d180272b5cf@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 01:12:12AM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2023/02/05 0:34, Alan Stern wrote:
> >> A few of examples:
> >>
> >> https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=2d6ac90723742279e101
> >
> > It's hard to figure out what's wrong from looking at the syzbot report.
> > What makes you think it is connected with dev->mutex?
> >
> > At first glance, it seems that the ath6kl driver is trying to flush a
> > workqueue while holding a lock or mutex that is needed by one of the
> > jobs in the workqueue. That's obviously never going to work, no matter
> > what sort of lockdep validation gets used.
>
> That lock is exactly dev->mutex where lockdep validation is disabled.
> If lockdep validation on dev->mutex were not disabled, we can catch
> possibility of deadlock before khungtaskd reports real deadlock as hung.
>
> Lockdep validation on dev->mutex being disabled is really annoying, and
> I want to make lockdep validation on dev->mutex enabled; that is the
> "drivers/core: Remove lockdep_set_novalidate_class() usage" patch.
> Even if it is always safe to acquire a child device's lock while holding
> the parent's lock, disabling lockdep checks completely on device's lock is
> not safe.
I understand the problem you want to solve, and I understand that it
can be frustrating. However, I do not believe you will be able to
solve this problem.
Alan Stern
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-04 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-04 13:32 Converting dev->mutex into dev->spinlock ? Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 13:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 14:21 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 14:34 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 15:16 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 15:34 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 16:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 16:27 ` Alan Stern [this message]
2023-02-04 17:09 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 20:01 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 20:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-05 1:23 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-06 14:13 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-06 15:45 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-07 13:07 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-07 17:46 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-07 22:17 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-08 0:34 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <20230208080739.1649-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-08 10:30 ` [PATCH] drivers/core: Replace lockdep_set_novalidate_class() with unique class keys Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-08 15:07 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-09 0:22 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-09 0:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-09 1:50 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-09 2:26 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-11 2:04 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-11 21:41 ` [PATCH RFC] " Alan Stern
2023-02-11 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-11 23:06 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-11 23:08 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-11 23:24 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 2:40 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 2:46 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 3:03 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 3:10 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 15:23 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 19:14 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 20:19 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 20:51 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13 1:23 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 2:21 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13 15:25 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 9:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 15:28 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 16:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 15:25 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 16:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 1:51 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14 1:53 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14 2:03 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-14 2:09 ` Boqun Feng
[not found] ` <20230214052733.3354-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-14 5:55 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14 10:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 16:22 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-15 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-20 17:32 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-13 18:46 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-14 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 20:05 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-15 10:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 20:16 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20230212013220.2678-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-12 1:52 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13 9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 16:18 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 17:51 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-13 18:05 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-05 1:31 ` Converting dev->mutex into dev->spinlock ? Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-05 16:46 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <20230206025629.1786-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-06 4:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-06 5:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20230206064305.1838-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-06 6:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 15:12 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 15:30 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 15:40 ` Alan Stern
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