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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Jules Maselbas <jmaselbas@kalray.eu>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking/atomic: atomic: Use arch_atomic_{read,set} in generic atomic ops
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:34:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9Pg+aNM9f48SY5Z@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230127134946.GJ5952@tellis.lin.mbt.kalray.eu>

On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 02:49:46PM +0100, Jules Maselbas wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 12:18:13PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 06:33:54PM +0100, Jules Maselbas wrote:
> > 
> > > @@ -58,9 +61,11 @@ static inline int generic_atomic_fetch_##op(int i, atomic_t *v)		\
> > >  static inline void generic_atomic_##op(int i, atomic_t *v)		\
> > >  {									\
> > >  	unsigned long flags;						\
> > > +	int c;								\
> > >  									\
> > >  	raw_local_irq_save(flags);					\
> > > -	v->counter = v->counter c_op i;					\
> > > +	c = arch_atomic_read(v);					\
> > > +	arch_atomic_set(v, c c_op i);					\
> > >  	raw_local_irq_restore(flags);					\
> > >  }
> > 
> > This and the others like it are a bit sad, it explicitly dis-allows the
> > compiler from using memops and forces a load-store.
> Good point, I don't know much about atomic memops but this is indeed a
> bit sad to prevent such instructions to be used.

Depends on the platform, x86,s390 etc. have then, RISC like things
typically don't.

> > The alternative is writing it like:
> > 
> > 	*(volatile int *)&v->counter c_op i;
> I wonder if it could be possible to write something like:
> 
>         *(volatile int *)&v->counter += i;

Should work, but give it a try, see what it does :-)

> I also noticed that GCC has some builtin/extension to do such things,
> __atomic_OP_fetch and __atomic_fetch_OP, but I do not know if this
> can be used in the kernel.

On a per-architecture basis only, the C/C++ memory model does not match
the Linux Kernel memory model so using the compiler to generate the
atomic ops is somewhat tricky and needs architecture audits.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-27 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-26 17:33 [PATCH] locking/atomic: atomic: Use arch_atomic_{read,set} in generic atomic ops Jules Maselbas
2023-01-27 11:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-27 13:49   ` Jules Maselbas
2023-01-27 14:34     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-01-27 22:09       ` Boqun Feng
2023-01-30 12:23         ` Jonas Oberhauser
2023-01-30 18:38           ` Boqun Feng
2023-01-31 15:08             ` Jonas Oberhauser
2023-01-31 22:03               ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-01 10:51                 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2023-01-30 18:15       ` Jules Maselbas

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