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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>
Cc: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	"liaochang (A)" <liaochang1@huawei.com>,
	palmer@dabbelt.com, paul.walmsley@sifive.com,
	mhiramat@kernel.org, conor.dooley@microchip.com,
	penberg@kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Guo Ren <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv: kprobe: Optimize kprobe with accurate atomicity
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 15:49:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9fm+6LPXgtDSma/@FVFF77S0Q05N> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r0vc9h4g.fsf@all.your.base.are.belong.to.us>

Hi Bjorn,

On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 04:28:15PM +0100, Björn Töpel wrote:
> Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> >> In the serie of RISCV OPTPROBES [1], it patches a long-jump instructions pair
> >> AUIPC/JALR in kernel text, so in order to ensure other CPUs does not execute
> >> in the instructions that will be modified, it is still need to stop other CPUs
> >> via patch_text API, or you have any better solution to achieve the purpose?
> >  - The stop_machine is an expensive way all architectures should
> > avoid, and you could keep that in your OPTPROBES implementation files
> > with static functions.
> >  - The stop_machine couldn't work with PREEMPTION, so your
> > implementation needs to work with !PREEMPTION.
> 
> ...and stop_machine() with !PREEMPTION is broken as well, when you're
> replacing multiple instructions (see Mark's post at [1]). The
> stop_machine() dance might work when you're replacing *one* instruction,
> not multiple as in the RISC-V case. I'll expand on this in a comment in
> the OPTPROBES v6 series.

Just to clarify, my comments in [1] were assuming that stop_machine() was not
used, in which case there is a problem with or without PREEMPTION.

I believe that when using stop_machine(), the !PREEMPTION case is fine, since
stop_machine() schedules work rather than running work in IRQ context on the
back of an IPI, so no CPUs should be mid-sequnce during the patching, and it's
not possible for there to be threads which are preempted mid-sequence.

That all said, IIUC optprobes is going to disappear once fprobe is ready
everywhere, so that might be moot.

Thanks,
Mark.

> >> >  static void __kprobes arch_prepare_simulate(struct kprobe *p)
> >> > @@ -114,16 +120,23 @@ void *alloc_insn_page(void)
> >> >  /* install breakpoint in text */
> >> >  void __kprobes arch_arm_kprobe(struct kprobe *p)
> >> >  {
> >> > -     if ((p->opcode & __INSN_LENGTH_MASK) == __INSN_LENGTH_32)
> >> > -             patch_text(p->addr, __BUG_INSN_32);
> >> > -     else
> >> > -             patch_text(p->addr, __BUG_INSN_16);
> >> > +#ifdef CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_C
> >> > +     u32 opcode = __BUG_INSN_16;
> >> > +#else
> >> > +     u32 opcode = __BUG_INSN_32;
> >> > +#endif
> >> > +     patch_text_nosync(p->addr, &opcode, GET_INSN_LENGTH(opcode));
> >>
> >> Sounds good, but it will leave some RVI instruction truncated in kernel text,
> >> i doubt kernel behavior depends on the rest of the truncated instruction, well,
> >> it needs more strict testing to prove my concern :)
> > I do this on purpose, and it doesn't cause any problems. Don't worry;
> > IFU hw must enforce the fetch sequence, and there is no way to execute
> > broken instructions even in the speculative execution path.
> 
> This is stretching reality a bit much. ARMv8, e.g., has a chapter in the
> Arm ARM [2] Appendix B "Concurrent modification and execution of
> instructions" (CMODX). *Some* instructions can be replaced concurrently,
> and others cannot without caution. Assuming that that all RISC-V
> implementations can, is a stretch. RISC-V hasn't even specified the
> behavior of CMODX (which is problematic).
> 
> If anything it would be more likely that the existing
> "stop_machine()-to-replace-with-ebreak" works (again, replacing one
> instruction does not have the !PREEMPTION issues). Then again, no spec,
> so mostly guessing from my side. :-(
> 
> Oh, but the existing "ebreak replace" might be broken like [3].
> 
> 
> Björn
> 
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/Y7%2F6AtX5X0+5qF6Y@FVFF77S0Q05N/
> [2] https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0487/latest
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/20230126170607.1489141-2-guoren@kernel.org/

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-30 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-26 16:15 [PATCH] riscv: kprobe: Optimize kprobe with accurate atomicity guoren
2023-01-28  3:52 ` liaochang (A)
2023-01-28  4:45   ` Guo Ren
2023-01-30 15:28     ` Björn Töpel
2023-01-30 15:49       ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2023-01-30 16:56         ` Björn Töpel
2023-01-31  1:48         ` Guo Ren
2023-01-31  7:12           ` Björn Töpel
2023-01-31  8:30             ` Guo Ren
2023-01-31 10:33           ` Mark Rutland
2023-02-16 15:23             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-02-20 10:35               ` Mark Rutland
2023-02-21  1:30               ` Guo Ren
2023-01-31  1:01       ` Guo Ren
2023-01-31  1:09         ` Guo Ren
2023-01-31  7:03           ` Björn Töpel
2023-01-31  8:27             ` Guo Ren
2023-01-31  6:40         ` Björn Töpel
2023-01-31  8:15           ` Guo Ren
2023-01-31 10:56             ` Andrea Parri
2023-01-31 13:23               ` Guo Ren
2023-02-16  7:54                 ` Björn Töpel
2023-02-17  2:28                   ` Guo Ren
2023-02-17  7:32                     ` Björn Töpel
2023-02-21  1:56                       ` Guo Ren
2023-02-16 15:42 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-02-21  0:57   ` Guo Ren

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