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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
	Yair Podemsky <ypodemsk@redhat.com>, P J P <ppandit@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] fs/buffer.c: update per-CPU bh_lru cache via RCU
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 23:04:11 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9xrm25NlbEReI7n@tpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y9w+b1MJ10uPDROI@casper.infradead.org>

On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 10:51:27PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 03, 2023 at 09:36:53AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 01, 2023 at 01:01:47PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > 
> > > umount calls invalidate_bh_lrus which IPIs each
> > 
> > via invalidate_bdev(). So this is only triggered on unmount of
> > filesystems that use the block device mapping directly, right?

While executing:
mount -o loop alpine-standard-3.17.1-x86_64.iso /mnt/loop/

           mount-170027  [004] ...1 53852.213367: invalidate_bdev <-__invalidate_device
           mount-170027  [004] ...1 53852.213468: invalidate_bdev <-bdev_disk_changed.part.0
           mount-170027  [000] ...1 53852.222326: invalidate_bh_lrus <-set_blocksize
           mount-170027  [000] ...1 53852.222398: invalidate_bh_lrus <-set_blocksize
   systemd-udevd-170031  [011] ...1 53852.239794: invalidate_bh_lrus <-blkdev_flush_mapping
   systemd-udevd-170029  [004] ...1 53852.240947: invalidate_bh_lrus <-blkdev_flush_mapping

> > 
> > Or is the problem that userspace is polling the block device (e.g.
> > udisks, blkid, etc) whilst the filesystem is mounted and populating
> > the block device mapping with cached pages so invalidate_bdev()
> > always does work even when the filesystem doesn't actually use the
> > bdev mapping?
> > 
> > > CPU that has non empty per-CPU buffer_head cache:
> > > 
> > >        	on_each_cpu_cond(has_bh_in_lru, invalidate_bh_lru, NULL, 1);
> > > 
> > > This interrupts CPUs which might be executing code sensitive
> > > to interferences.
> > > 
> > > To avoid the IPI, free the per-CPU caches remotely via RCU.
> > > Two bh_lrus structures for each CPU are allocated: one is being
> > > used (assigned to per-CPU bh_lru pointer), and the other is
> > > being freed (or idle).
> > 
> > Rather than adding more complexity to the legacy bufferhead code,
> > wouldn't it be better to switch the block device mapping to use
> > iomap+folios and get rid of the use of bufferheads altogether?
> 
> Pretty sure ext4's journalling relies on the blockdev using
> buffer_heads.  At least, I did a conversion of blockdev to use
> mpage_readahead() and ext4 stopped working.

And its actually pretty simple: the new invalidate_bh_lrus should be
straightforward use of RCU:

1. for_each_online(cpu)
	cpu->bh_lrup = bh_lrus[1]	(or 0)

2. synchronize_rcu_expedited()		(wait for all previous users of
					 bh_lrup pointer to stop
					 referencing it).

3. free bh's in bh_lrus[0]		(or 1)




  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-03 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-01 16:01 [PATCH v3] fs/buffer.c: update per-CPU bh_lru cache via RCU Marcelo Tosatti
2023-02-02 22:36 ` Dave Chinner
2023-02-02 22:51   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-03  2:04     ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2023-02-03  5:49   ` Christoph Hellwig

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