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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Don Bollinger <don@thebollingers.org>
Cc: 'Andrew Lunn' <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	'Jakub Kicinski' <kuba@kernel.org>,
	arndb@arndb.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	brandon_chuang@edge-core.com, wally_wang@accton.com,
	aken_liu@edge-core.com, gulv@microsoft.com,
	jolevequ@microsoft.com, xinxliu@microsoft.com,
	'netdev' <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	'Moshe Shemesh' <moshe@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] eeprom/optoe: driver to read/write SFP/QSFP/CMIS EEPROMS
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 13:40:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YF8nwvFkqrt34AGQ@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <011c01d72284$544c8f50$fce5adf0$@thebollingers.org>

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 02:09:36PM -0700, Don Bollinger wrote:
> > You keep missing the point. I always refer to the KAPI. The driver we can
> > rework and rework, throw away and reimplement, as much as we want.
> > The KAPI cannot be changed, it is ABI. It is pretty much frozen the day
> the
> > code is first committed.
> 
> Maybe I don't understand what you mean by KAPI.  The KAPI that optoe exposes
> is in two parts.
> 
> First, it makes the EEPROM accessible via the nvmem() interface, an existing
> KAPI that I call from optoe.  at24 implemented it, I made use of it.  This
> interface exposes EEPROM data to user space through a defined sysfs() file.
> I didn't invent this, nor am I proposing it, it already exists.

Again, a "raw" interface to a device that is just memory-mapping all of
the device information directly is no sort of a real KABI at all.

It is no different from trying to use /dev/mem/ to write a networking
driver, just because you can mmap in the device's configuration space to
userspace.

That is not a real api, it is only using the kernel as a "pass-through"
which works fine for one-off devices, and other oddities, but is not a
unified user/kernel api for a class of device types at all.

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-27 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-15 19:38 [PATCH v2] eeprom/optoe: driver to read/write SFP/QSFP/CMIS EEPROMS Don Bollinger
2021-02-26 22:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-02-27  2:46   ` Don Bollinger
2021-02-27 16:23     ` Andrew Lunn
2021-03-01 20:00     ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-01 20:45       ` Andrew Lunn
2021-03-05 19:07         ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-05 22:55           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-03-06  2:30             ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-06  3:31               ` Andrew Lunn
2021-03-12 19:04                 ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-12 19:59                   ` Andrew Lunn
2021-03-13 21:35                     ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-15 17:39                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-03-15 18:09                         ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-17 18:15                           ` Andrew Lunn
2021-03-20 16:10                             ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-26 18:43                               ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-29 22:13                                 ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-23 20:32                             ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-23 22:29                               ` Andrew Lunn
2021-03-26 18:43                                 ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-26 19:46                                   ` Andrew Lunn
2021-03-26 20:16                                     ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-26 20:37                                       ` Andrew Lunn
2021-03-26 21:09                                         ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-26 21:54                                           ` Andrew Lunn
2021-03-26 22:30                                             ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-27 15:25                                               ` Andrew Lunn
2021-03-27 21:20                                                 ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-27 12:40                                           ` Greg KH [this message]
2021-03-23 14:12 ` Greg KH
2021-03-23 18:43   ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-23 18:59     ` 'Greg KH'
2021-03-23 19:08       ` Don Bollinger
2021-03-23 19:12         ` 'Greg KH'

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