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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Samo Pogacnik <samo_pogacnik@t-2.net>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: How to handle concurrent access to /dev/ttyprintk ?
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 14:04:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YHQ3Zy9gRdZsu77w@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32e75be6-6e9f-b33f-d585-13db220519da@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 08:25:27PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2021/04/12 19:44, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > And trying to "open exclusive only" just does not work, the kernel can
> > not enforce that at all, sorry.  Any driver that you see trying to do
> > that is trivial to work around in userspace, making the kernel code
> > pointless.
> 
> You mean something like below cannot be used?
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/char/ttyprintk.c b/drivers/char/ttyprintk.c
> index 6a0059e508e3..57200569918a 100644
> --- a/drivers/char/ttyprintk.c
> +++ b/drivers/char/ttyprintk.c
> @@ -84,14 +84,26 @@ static int tpk_printk(const unsigned char *buf, int count)
>  	return count;
>  }
>  
> +static DEFINE_MUTEX(open_close_lock);

Hah, nope, does not work at all!

Think about sending an open file descriptor all around the system, or
through a pipe, your "open only once" check does not prevent that at
all.

> > Like any tty port, if you have multiple accesses, all bets are off and
> > hilarity ensues.  Just don't do that and expect things to be working
> > well.
> 
> Since syzkaller is a fuzzer, syzkaller happily opens /dev/ttyprintk from
> multiple threads. Should we update syzkaller to use CONFIG_TTY_PRINTK=n ?

Why?  Can you not hit the same tty code paths from any other tty driver
being open multiple times?  Why is ttyprintk somehow "special" here?

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-12 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-03  4:14 [PATCH] tty: use printk_safe context at tty_msg() Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-03  6:52 ` kernel test robot
2021-04-03 10:11   ` [PATCH] printk: Make multiple inclusion of kernel/printk/internal.h safe Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06  4:51 ` [PATCH] tty: use printk_safe context at tty_msg() Jiri Slaby
2021-04-06  5:31   ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06  7:10     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-06 11:16       ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06 13:42         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-06 15:10 ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-06 16:22   ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06 19:10     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-07  9:20       ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-07 13:26     ` [PATCH v2] tty: use printk_deferred() " Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-07 13:48       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-07 14:24         ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-12 10:39           ` How to handle concurrent access to /dev/ttyprintk ? Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-12 10:44             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-12 11:25               ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-12 12:04                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2021-04-14  0:45                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-14 11:11                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-14 16:15                       ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-15  0:22                         ` [PATCH] ttyprintk: Add TTY hangup callback Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-18 11:16                           ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-22 10:02                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-23  4:22                             ` Jiri Slaby
2021-04-23  9:55                               ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-23 10:12                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-23 19:47                                   ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-24  1:16                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-24  9:57                                       ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-26 10:00                                         ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-26 16:42                                           ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-27 10:08                                             ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-27 11:31                                               ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-23 10:28                                 ` Jiri Slaby
2021-04-23 12:23                                   ` [PATCH] ttyprintk: Add TTY port shutdown callback Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-12 12:41             ` How to handle concurrent access to /dev/ttyprintk ? Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-13  9:41               ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-13 11:10                 ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-13 14:32                   ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-13 15:22                     ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-14 17:36                       ` Petr Mladek

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