From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: "Samo Pogačnik" <samo_pogacnik@t-2.net>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ttyprintk: Add TTY hangup callback.
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 12:08:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YIfiiGVJqkWV/IDa@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d4d0603716e5cb99a7a9a93d4f767278ac318557.camel@t-2.net>
On Mon 2021-04-26 18:42:05, Samo Pogačnik wrote:
> Dne 26.04.2021 (pon) ob 12:00 +0200 je Petr Mladek napisal(a):
> > It does not matter how much buffering games you play. As long as you
> > use printk() to store single lines into the kernel logbuffer they
> > alway could be interleaved with lines from other processes/CPUs.
>
> Exactly. The only purpose of ttyprintk buffering is to mark any begining of
> lines occurring within the userspace-string written into ttyprintk TTY. The
> marked lines do not originate in the kernel source code, which is not obvious
> otherwise (imho this is importannt). Even the CONFIG_PRINTK_CALLER=y does not
> give this information, if the task ID printed does not live anymore.
I guess that you mean TPK_PREFIX + "[U] ".
> > I am not sure if I understand the problem. But why does ttyprintk need
> > any buffer at all. AFAIK, the use-case is to pass any written data into the
> > kernel logbuffer via printk()?
> (see above - it is not something the kernel is telling you)
But you could do this already in tpk_write(). I mean that you could
parse the given buffer, copy each line to a temporary buffer,
and call printk(TPK_PREFIX "[U] %s\n", tmp_buf).
Why is it postponed to tpk_close()?
IMHO, the printk() in tpk_write() might simplify the logic a bit.
> > Why tpk_write() does not call printk() directly?
> (see above)
> >
> > If you call printk() directly, the caller_id would be from the process
> > that really wrote the data/message.
> It can be a kernel-code originating message printk-ed on behalf of a user task
> or a kernel-code originating message on behalf of a kernel task. Or it may be a
> user-code originating message on behalf of its task, when printk-ed via
> ttyprintk.
Exactly. Now, I am not sure if you think that this good or bad.
IMHO, it is much better to use caller_id of the process/context that
wrote the data/message instead of the process that caused the final
tpk_close().
Anyway, it is not a big deal. We could leave the code as is if it
works for you. My mine intention was to stop the ideas of per-task
buffers and additional complexity. It was just an idea how to
simplify the code instead.
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-27 10:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-03 4:14 [PATCH] tty: use printk_safe context at tty_msg() Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-03 6:52 ` kernel test robot
2021-04-03 10:11 ` [PATCH] printk: Make multiple inclusion of kernel/printk/internal.h safe Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06 4:51 ` [PATCH] tty: use printk_safe context at tty_msg() Jiri Slaby
2021-04-06 5:31 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06 7:10 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-06 11:16 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06 13:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-06 15:10 ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-06 16:22 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06 19:10 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-07 9:20 ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-07 13:26 ` [PATCH v2] tty: use printk_deferred() " Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-07 13:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-07 14:24 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-12 10:39 ` How to handle concurrent access to /dev/ttyprintk ? Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-12 10:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-12 11:25 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-12 12:04 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-14 0:45 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-14 11:11 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-14 16:15 ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-15 0:22 ` [PATCH] ttyprintk: Add TTY hangup callback Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-18 11:16 ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-22 10:02 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-23 4:22 ` Jiri Slaby
2021-04-23 9:55 ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-23 10:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-23 19:47 ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-24 1:16 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-24 9:57 ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-26 10:00 ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-26 16:42 ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-27 10:08 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2021-04-27 11:31 ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-23 10:28 ` Jiri Slaby
2021-04-23 12:23 ` [PATCH] ttyprintk: Add TTY port shutdown callback Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-12 12:41 ` How to handle concurrent access to /dev/ttyprintk ? Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-13 9:41 ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-13 11:10 ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-13 14:32 ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-13 15:22 ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-14 17:36 ` Petr Mladek
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=YIfiiGVJqkWV/IDa@alley \
--to=pmladek@suse.com \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=jirislaby@kernel.org \
--cc=john.ogness@linutronix.de \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=samo_pogacnik@t-2.net \
--cc=sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com \
--cc=syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox