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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: "Samo Pogačnik" <samo_pogacnik@t-2.net>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ttyprintk: Add TTY hangup callback.
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 12:08:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YIfiiGVJqkWV/IDa@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d4d0603716e5cb99a7a9a93d4f767278ac318557.camel@t-2.net>

On Mon 2021-04-26 18:42:05, Samo Pogačnik wrote:
> Dne 26.04.2021 (pon) ob 12:00 +0200 je Petr Mladek napisal(a):
> > It does not matter how much buffering games you play. As long as you
> > use printk() to store single lines into the kernel logbuffer they
> > alway could be interleaved with lines from other processes/CPUs.
> 
> Exactly. The only purpose of ttyprintk buffering is to mark any begining of
> lines occurring within the userspace-string written into ttyprintk TTY. The
> marked lines do not originate in the kernel source code, which is not obvious
> otherwise (imho this is importannt). Even the CONFIG_PRINTK_CALLER=y does not
> give this information, if the task ID printed does not live anymore.

I guess that you mean TPK_PREFIX + "[U] ".

> > I am not sure if I understand the problem. But why does ttyprintk need
> > any buffer at all. AFAIK, the use-case is to pass any written data into the
> > kernel logbuffer via printk()?
> (see above - it is not something the kernel is telling you)

But you could do this already in tpk_write(). I mean that you could
parse the given buffer, copy each line to a temporary buffer,
and call printk(TPK_PREFIX "[U] %s\n", tmp_buf).

Why is it postponed to tpk_close()?

IMHO, the printk() in tpk_write() might simplify the logic a bit.


> > Why tpk_write() does not call printk() directly?
> (see above)
> > 
> > If you call printk() directly, the caller_id would be from the process
> > that really wrote the data/message.
> It can be a kernel-code originating message printk-ed on behalf of a user task
> or a kernel-code originating message on behalf of a kernel task. Or it may be a
> user-code originating message on behalf of its task, when printk-ed via
> ttyprintk.

Exactly. Now, I am not sure if you think that this good or bad.

IMHO, it is much better to use caller_id of the process/context that
wrote the data/message instead of the process that caused the final
tpk_close().

Anyway, it is not a big deal. We could leave the code as is if it
works for you. My mine intention was to stop the ideas of per-task
buffers and additional complexity. It was just an idea how to
simplify the code instead.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-27 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-03  4:14 [PATCH] tty: use printk_safe context at tty_msg() Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-03  6:52 ` kernel test robot
2021-04-03 10:11   ` [PATCH] printk: Make multiple inclusion of kernel/printk/internal.h safe Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06  4:51 ` [PATCH] tty: use printk_safe context at tty_msg() Jiri Slaby
2021-04-06  5:31   ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06  7:10     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-06 11:16       ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06 13:42         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-06 15:10 ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-06 16:22   ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-06 19:10     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-07  9:20       ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-07 13:26     ` [PATCH v2] tty: use printk_deferred() " Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-07 13:48       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-07 14:24         ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-12 10:39           ` How to handle concurrent access to /dev/ttyprintk ? Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-12 10:44             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-12 11:25               ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-12 12:04                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-14  0:45                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-14 11:11                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-14 16:15                       ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-15  0:22                         ` [PATCH] ttyprintk: Add TTY hangup callback Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-18 11:16                           ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-22 10:02                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-23  4:22                             ` Jiri Slaby
2021-04-23  9:55                               ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-23 10:12                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-23 19:47                                   ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-24  1:16                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-04-24  9:57                                       ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-26 10:00                                         ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-26 16:42                                           ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-27 10:08                                             ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2021-04-27 11:31                                               ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-23 10:28                                 ` Jiri Slaby
2021-04-23 12:23                                   ` [PATCH] ttyprintk: Add TTY port shutdown callback Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-12 12:41             ` How to handle concurrent access to /dev/ttyprintk ? Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-13  9:41               ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-13 11:10                 ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-13 14:32                   ` Petr Mladek
2021-04-13 15:22                     ` Samo Pogačnik
2021-04-14 17:36                       ` Petr Mladek

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