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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
Cc: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] perf auxtrace: Change to use SMP memory barriers
Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 11:45:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YK9qMWMRWIMfzcPh@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c7dcd5d-fddd-5d3b-81ac-cb7b615b0338@intel.com>

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:25:40AM +0300, Adrian Hunter wrote:
> On 27/05/21 11:11 am, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:54:56AM +0300, Adrian Hunter wrote:
> >> On 19/05/21 5:03 pm, Leo Yan wrote:
> >>> The AUX ring buffer's head and tail can be accessed from multiple CPUs
> >>> on SMP system, so changes to use SMP memory barriers to replace the
> >>> uniprocessor barriers.
> >>
> >> I don't think user space should attempt to be SMP-aware.
> > 
> > Uhh, what? It pretty much has to. Since userspace cannot assume UP, it
> > must assume SMP.
> 
> Yeah that is what I meant, but consequently we generally shouldn't be
> using functions called smp_<anything>

Of course we should; they're the SMP class of barriers.

> > So ACK on the patch, it's sane and an optimization for both x86 and ARM.
> > Just the Changelog needs work.
> 
> If all we want is a compiler barrier, then shouldn't that be what we use?
> i.e. barrier()

No, we want the SMP barriers, smp_rmb() happens to be a compiler barrier
on x86, but it will be dmb(ishld) on Aarrgh64 for example.


      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-27  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-19 14:03 [PATCH v1 1/2] perf auxtrace: Change to use SMP memory barriers Leo Yan
2021-05-19 14:03 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] perf auxtrace: Optimize barriers with load-acquire and store-release Leo Yan
2021-05-31 15:10   ` Leo Yan
2021-05-31 15:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-31 19:03     ` Adrian Hunter
2021-06-01  6:33       ` Leo Yan
2021-06-01  6:58         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-01  9:07         ` Adrian Hunter
2021-06-01  9:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-01  9:45             ` Adrian Hunter
2021-06-01  9:48               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-01 14:56               ` Leo Yan
2021-06-01  6:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-27  7:54 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] perf auxtrace: Change to use SMP memory barriers Adrian Hunter
2021-05-27  8:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-27  8:25     ` Adrian Hunter
2021-05-27  9:24       ` Adrian Hunter
2021-05-27  9:57         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-31 14:53           ` Leo Yan
2021-05-31 15:48             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-01  3:21               ` Leo Yan
2021-05-27  9:45       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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