From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,INCLUDES_PATCH, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2279C433ED for ; Fri, 21 May 2021 07:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F5F600CC for ; Fri, 21 May 2021 07:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S236377AbhEUHyo (ORCPT ); Fri, 21 May 2021 03:54:44 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:36514 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231709AbhEUHym (ORCPT ); Fri, 21 May 2021 03:54:42 -0400 Received: from desiato.infradead.org (desiato.infradead.org [IPv6:2001:8b0:10b:1:d65d:64ff:fe57:4e05]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C19A4C061574 for ; Fri, 21 May 2021 00:53:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=desiato.20200630; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=Rtlup+fauhu/WfletXJx5U+N+g6I1TwSLIMa7TtqpCQ=; b=TgEyYWI+kHy5pUXV5YID2Dcgl2 pEmUYIK0pYImE4KyDXsjQGa9+lsi1ELoI/LRZXViMqrNWclmTnDbtdYMfnsCVMqp4JZNxnCXsXgoO 3ycoYhsTvpv6Lc+VhKU+N6Z5xU2mRgr+iI5m8TMUA2sPRph/RkRPqheNIIEoBWxokROS4e7GqvqH6 chxL3f/2e7cQYZHl3iDh/TKLYImlVgd9pu6eLw0N9tBbmyixOAvNW9vP7HxrNL0WBuIy3fS2KwTfz KJfUWNA/poal2xwGQNJE0wPz2pNVLOybbFhywK/p16kgGpCU9jpaM9CuODDLkvUOHyZ0RqjFRL/ej EPkA7GwQ==; Received: from j217100.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.217.100] helo=noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net) by desiato.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1ljzy8-004IKF-EC; Fri, 21 May 2021 07:53:16 +0000 Received: from hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net [192.168.1.225]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8322A300103; Fri, 21 May 2021 09:53:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 63CF72C6D2B85; Fri, 21 May 2021 09:53:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 09:53:15 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Hugh Dickins Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, joel@joelfernandes.org Subject: Re: config SCHED_CORE Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 08:06:07PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote: > Hi Peter, > > make oldconfig gave me no help at all on how to decide whether to choose > SCHED_CORE Y or n, beyond it recommending Y. Maybe you'll delete that > option later, or maybe removing the prompt string would silence it. Ah, you're quite right. I never seem to have gotten around to actually writing anything useful there :/ Similarly the documentation for all this seems to have gone missing too. Joel, could I ask you to refresh the document to match the current state of things and repost? I still whole hartedly despise this RST crud, it makes it so hard to read / modify the files. ( I think the latest version is here: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20210324214020.34142-8-joel@joelfernandes.org ) Anyway, how is something like the below, Joel can add a reference to the document once it's there. --- kernel/Kconfig.preempt | 14 +++++++++++++- 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/kernel/Kconfig.preempt b/kernel/Kconfig.preempt index ea1e3331c0ba..3c4566cd20ef 100644 --- a/kernel/Kconfig.preempt +++ b/kernel/Kconfig.preempt @@ -104,4 +104,16 @@ config SCHED_CORE bool "Core Scheduling for SMT" default y depends on SCHED_SMT - + help + This option enables Core scheduling, a means of coordinated task + selection across SMT siblings with the express purpose of creating a + Core wide privilidge boundary. When enabled -- see prctl(PR_SCHED_CORE) + -- task selection will ensure all SMT siblings will execute a task + from the same 'core group', forcing idle when no matching task is found. + + This provides means of mitigation against a number of SMT side-channels; + but is, on its own, insufficient to mitigate all known side-channels. + Notable: the MDS class of attacks require more. + + Default enabled for anything that has SCHED_SMT, when unused there should + be no impact on performance.