From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Michael Schmitz <schmitzmic@gmail.com>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
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Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
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Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
Ley Foon Tan <ley.foon.tan@intel.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Refactoring exit
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 22:45:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YNULA+Ff+eB66bcP@zeniv-ca.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875yy3850g.fsf_-_@disp2133>
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 01:57:35PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> So far the code has been lightly tested, and the descriptions of some
> of the patches are a bit light, but I think this shows the direction
> I am aiming to travel for sorting out exit(2) and exit_group(2).
FWIW, here's the current picture for do_exit(), aside of exit(2) and do_exit_group():
1) stuff that is clearly oops-like -
alpha:die_if_kernel() alpha:do_entUna() alpha:do_page_fault() arm:oops_end()
arm:__do_kernel_fault() arm64:die() arm64:die_kernel_fault() csky:alignment()
csky:die() csky:no_context() h8300:die() h8300:do_page_fault() hexagon:die()
ia64:die() i64:ia64_do_page_fault() m68k:die_if_kernel() m68k:send_fault_sig()
microblaze:die() mips:die() nds32:handle_fpu_exception() nds32:die()
nds32:unhandled_interruption() nds32:unhandled_exceptions() nds32:do_revinsn()
nds32:do_page_fault() nios:die() openrisc:die() openrisc:do_page_fault()
parisc:die_if_kernel() ppc:oops_end() riscv:die() riscv:die_kernel_fault()
s390:die() s390:do_no_context() s390:do_low_address() sh:die()
sparc32:die_if_kernel() sparc32:do_sparc_fault() sparc64:die_if_kernel()
x86:rewind_stack_do_exit() xtensa:die() xtensa:bad_page_fault()
We really do not want ptrace anywhere near any of those and we do not want
any of that to return; this shit would better be handled right there and
there - no "post a fatal signal" would do.
2) sparc32 playing silly buggers with SIGILL in case when signal delivery
can't get a valid sigframe. The regular variant for that kind of stuff
is forced SIGSEGV from failure case of signal_setup_done(). We could force
that SIGILL instead of do_exit() there (and report failure from sigframe
setup), but I suspect that we'll get SIGSEGV override that SIGILL, with
user-visible behaviour change. Triggered by altstack overflow on sparc32;
sparc64 gets SIGSEGV in the same situation, just like everybody else.
3) ppc swapcontext(2). Normal syscall, on failure results in exit(SIGSEGV).
Not sure if we want to post signal here - exposing the caller to results
of failure might be... interesting. And I really don't know if we want
to allow ptrace() to poke around in the results of such failure. That's
a question for ppc maintainers.
4) sparc32:try_to_clear_window_buffer(). Probably could force SIGSEGV
instead of do_exit() there, but that might need a bit of massage in
asm glue - it's called on the way out of kernel, right before handling
signals. I'd like comments from davem on that one, though.
5) in xtensa fast_syscall_spill_registers() stuff. Might or might not
be similar to the above.
6) sparc64 in tsb_grow() - looks like "impossible case, kill the sucker
dead if that ever happens". Not sure if it's reachable at all.
7) s390 copy_thread() is doing something interesting in kernel thread
case - frame->childregs.gprs[11] = (unsigned long)do_exit;
AFAICS, had been unused since 30dcb0996e40, when s390 switched to new
kernel_execve() semantics and kernel_thread_starter stopped using r11
(or proceeding to do_exit() in the first place). Ought to be removed,
if s390 folks ACK that.
8) x86:emulate_vsyscall(), x86:save_v86_state(), m68k:fpsp040_die(),
mips:bad_stack(), s390:__s390_handle_mcck(), ia64:mca_handler_bh(),
s390:default_trap_handler() - fuck knows.
9) seccomp stuff - this one should *NOT* be switched to posting signals;
it's on syscall_trace_enter() paths and we'd better have signal-equivalent
environment there. We sure as hell do have regular "stop and let tracer
poke around" in the same area - that's where strace is poking around.
10) there's a (moderate) bunch of places all over the tree where we
have kthread() payload hit do_exit(), with or without complete() or
module_put(). No ptrace stuff is going to be hit there and I see no
point in switching those to posting anything. In particular,
module_put_and_exit() sure as hell does *NOT* want to return to caller -
it might've been unmapped by the point we are done. This do_exit()
should really be noreturn.
11) abuses in kernel/kthread.c; AFAICS, it's misused as a mechanism
to return an error value to parent. No ptrace possible (parent
definitely not traced) and I don't see any point in delaying the
handling of that do_exit() either (same as with the execve failure
in call_usermodehelper_exec_async()).
12) io-uring threads hitting do_exit(). These, apparently, can be
ptraced...
13) there's bdflush(1, whatever), which is equivalent to exit(0).
IMO it's long past the time to simply remove the sucker.
14) reboot(2) stuff. No idea.
15) syscall_user_dispatch(). Didn't have time to look through that
stuff in details yet, so no idea at the moment.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-24 22:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-10 20:57 Kernel stack read with PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT and io_uring threads Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-10 22:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-11 21:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-11 23:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-13 21:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-13 22:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-14 2:05 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-14 5:03 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-14 16:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-14 22:26 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-15 19:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-15 19:36 ` [PATCH] alpha: Add extra switch_stack frames in exit, exec, and kernel threads Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-15 22:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-16 16:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 18:29 ` [PATCH 0/2] alpha/ptrace: Improved switch_stack handling Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 18:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] alpha/ptrace: Record and handle the absence of switch_stack Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-16 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-16 20:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 21:02 ` Al Viro
2021-06-16 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-16 20:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 20:17 ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 2:01 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-21 2:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-21 3:18 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-21 3:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-21 4:08 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-21 3:44 ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 5:31 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-21 2:27 ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 3:36 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-16 18:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] alpha/ptrace: Add missing switch_stack frames Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 20:25 ` Al Viro
2021-06-16 20:28 ` Al Viro
2021-06-16 20:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 20:54 ` Al Viro
2021-06-16 20:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-16 20:55 ` Al Viro
2021-06-16 20:50 ` [PATCH] alpha: Add extra switch_stack frames in exit, exec, and kernel threads Al Viro
2021-06-15 20:56 ` Kernel stack read with PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT and io_uring threads Michael Schmitz
2021-06-16 0:23 ` Finn Thain
2021-06-15 21:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-16 15:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-21 13:54 ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 14:16 ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 16:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-21 23:05 ` Al Viro
2021-06-22 16:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-21 15:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-21 18:59 ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-21 19:45 ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 23:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-21 23:23 ` Al Viro
2021-06-21 23:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-22 21:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-22 21:48 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-23 5:26 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-23 14:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-22 0:01 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-22 20:04 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-22 20:18 ` Al Viro
2021-06-22 21:57 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-21 20:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-21 23:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-22 20:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-23 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-23 14:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 18:57 ` [PATCH 0/9] Refactoring exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 18:59 ` [PATCH 1/9] signal/sh: Use force_sig(SIGKILL) instead of do_group_exit(SIGKILL) Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 18:59 ` [PATCH 2/9] signal/seccomp: Refactor seccomp signal and coredump generation Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-26 3:17 ` Kees Cook
2021-06-28 19:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-28 14:34 ` [signal/seccomp] 3fdd8c68c2: kernel-selftests.seccomp.seccomp_bpf.fail kernel test robot
2021-06-24 19:00 ` [PATCH 3/9] signal/seccomp: Dump core when there is only one live thread Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-26 3:20 ` Kees Cook
2021-06-24 19:01 ` [PATCH 4/9] signal: Factor start_group_exit out of complete_signal Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 20:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-25 8:47 ` kernel test robot
2021-06-26 3:24 ` Kees Cook
2021-06-24 19:01 ` [PATCH 5/9] signal/group_exit: Use start_group_exit in place of do_group_exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-26 3:35 ` Kees Cook
2021-06-24 19:02 ` [PATCH 6/9] signal: Fold do_group_exit into get_signal fixing io_uring threads Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-26 3:42 ` Kees Cook
2021-06-28 19:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 19:02 ` [PATCH 7/9] signal: Make individual tasks exiting a first class concept Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 20:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-24 21:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 19:03 ` [PATCH 8/9] signal/task_exit: Use start_task_exit in place of do_exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-26 5:56 ` Kees Cook
2021-06-24 19:03 ` [PATCH 9/9] signal: Move PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT into get_signal Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-24 22:45 ` Al Viro [this message]
2021-06-27 22:13 ` [PATCH 0/9] Refactoring exit Al Viro
2021-06-27 22:59 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-28 7:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-28 16:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-28 17:14 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-28 19:17 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-28 20:13 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-28 21:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-28 23:42 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-29 20:28 ` [CFT][PATCH] exit/bdflush: Remove the deprecated bdflush system call Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-29 21:45 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-30 8:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-30 8:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-30 12:30 ` Cyril Hrubis
2021-06-28 19:02 ` [PATCH 0/9] Refactoring exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-21 19:24 ` Kernel stack read with PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT and io_uring threads Al Viro
2021-06-21 23:24 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-06-16 7:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-16 19:40 ` Michael Schmitz
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