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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Michael Petlan <mpetlan@redhat.com>
Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Riccardo Mancini <rickyman7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/10] perf: Add build id parsing fault detection/fix
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 19:27:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YNi08CN8VE16d0n2@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.20.2106241339140.27231@Diego>

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 01:44:43PM +0200, Michael Petlan wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2021, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > Hi Jiri,
> > 
> > Thanks for your work!
> > 
> > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 2:19 PM Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 03:14:04PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > > > Em Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:47:54AM -0700, Ian Rogers escreveu:
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:39 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
> > > > > <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Em Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 05:39:08PM +0200, Jiri Olsa escreveu:
> > > > > > > hi,
> > > > > > > this *RFC* patchset adds support to detect faults during
> > > > > > > mmap2's build id parsing and a way to fix such maps in
> > > > > > > generated perf.data.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It adds support to record build id faults count for session
> > > > > > > and store it in perf.data and perf inject support to find
> > > > > > > these maps and reads build ids for them in user space.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's probably best explained by the workflow:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Record data with --buildid-mmap option:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     # perf record --buildid-mmap ...
> > > > > > >     ...
> > > > > > >     [ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
> > > > > > >     [ perf record: Failed to parse 4 build ids]
> > > > > > >     [ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.008 MB perf.data ]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Check if there's any build id fault reported:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     # perf report --header-only
> > > > > > >     ...
> > > > > > >     # build id mmap stats: FAULTS 4, LOST 0, NOT FIXED
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   There is, check the stats:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     # perf report --stat
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Aggregated stats:
> > > > > > >              TOTAL events:        104
> > > > > > >                       ....
> > > > > > >            BUILD_ID fails:          4  (14.3%)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Yep, let's fix it:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     # perf inject --buildid-mmap2 -i perf.data -o perf-fixed.data
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can we make it possible to automate this with --fixup-buildids or a
> > > > > > perfconfig 'record' knob?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This would entail requesting that build-ids that _fail_ be sent to the
> > > > > > side-band thread we have in 'perf record', this way we wouldn't have to
> > > > > > traverse the whole perf.data file, be it with 'perf-record' at the end
> > > > > > of a session with faulty build ids, or in a similar fashion using 'perf
> > > > > > inject' as you suggest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I even think that we can have all these modes and let the user to decide
> > > > > > how important is this for them and how convenient they want the whole
> > > > > > process to be.
> > >
> > > right, that might be good to decide first.. because as I said,
> > > I never hit faulted build id, so it probably needs the special
> > > setup you guys are using.. could you try on your setup and check
> > > how many faulted build ids you see?
> > 
> > Did you check data mmaps?  It might be easy to get faults
> > from data files and we don't know if it's an ELF or not
> > before reading the ELF header in the first page.
> 
> Hi. Long ago, I have noticed samples pointing to purely data files,
> such as if the program execution was sampled just in the middle of
> them. However, these files couldn't certainly contain any executable
> code... It was quite hard to reproduce this.
> 
> Maybe what Namhyung says might have been a culprit for it? Just an
> idea...

yea, that sounds bad.. I guess you can no longer reproduce?

thanks,
jirka


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-27 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-22 15:39 [RFC 00/10] perf: Add build id parsing fault detection/fix Jiri Olsa
2021-06-22 15:39 ` [PATCH 01/10] perf: Track build id faults for mmap2 event Jiri Olsa
2021-06-22 15:39 ` [PATCH 02/10] perf: Move build_id_parse to check only regular files Jiri Olsa
2021-06-22 15:39 ` [PATCH 03/10] perf: Add new read_format bit to read build id faults Jiri Olsa
2021-06-22 15:39 ` [PATCH 04/10] perf: Add new read_format bit to read lost events Jiri Olsa
2021-06-22 15:39 ` [PATCH 05/10] tools: Sync perf_event.h uapi Jiri Olsa
2021-06-22 15:39 ` [PATCH 06/10] libperf: Do not allow PERF_FORMAT_GROUP in perf_evsel__read Jiri Olsa
2021-06-22 15:39 ` [PATCH 07/10] perf record: Add support to read build id fails Jiri Olsa
2021-06-22 15:39 ` [PATCH 08/10] perf record: Add new HEADER_BUILD_ID_MMAP feature Jiri Olsa
2021-06-22 15:39 ` [PATCH 09/10] perf report: Display build id fails stats Jiri Olsa
2021-06-22 15:39 ` [PATCH 10/10] perf inject: Add --buildid-mmap2 option to fix failed build ids Jiri Olsa
2021-06-22 17:39 ` [RFC 00/10] perf: Add build id parsing fault detection/fix Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-06-22 17:47   ` Ian Rogers
2021-06-22 18:14     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-06-22 21:19       ` Jiri Olsa
2021-06-23 19:48         ` Namhyung Kim
2021-06-24 11:44           ` Michael Petlan
2021-06-27 17:27             ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2021-06-27 17:25           ` Jiri Olsa
2021-06-28  3:39             ` Namhyung Kim
2021-06-23 20:15 ` Namhyung Kim

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