From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com, aarcange@redhat.com,
ak@linux.intel.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com, david@redhat.com,
hpa@zytor.com, jgross@suse.com, jmattson@google.com,
joro@8bytes.org, jpoimboe@redhat.com, knsathya@kernel.org,
pbonzini@redhat.com, sdeep@vmware.com, tony.luck@intel.com,
vkuznets@redhat.com, wanpengli@tencent.com, x86@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/26] x86/traps: Add #VE support for TDX guest
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 18:35:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YcyccW9yzAPoo/rX@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YcyV1uwa72vhPXPV@google.com>
On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 05:07:34PM +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> FWIW, virtual/guest NMIs are blocked by the TDX module until pending #VE info
> is retrieved via TDGETVEINFO. Hardware has nothing to do with that behavior.
The TDX module can block NMIs?! Can we get that functionality exported
to baremetal too pls? Then we can get rid of the NMI nesting crap.
> Yes? The rules would be the same as whatever existing rules we have for taking
> #DBs in NMI, but that's because the subsequent IRET unblocking NMIs, not because
> there's anything special about #VE. Pending NMIs are blocked by the regular NMI
> status (unblocked by IRET) _and_ by an unread #VE info.
>
> The unread #VE info clause in NMI blocking is purely to prevent an NMI from being
> injected before the guest's #VE handler can do TDGETVEINFO, otherwise a #VE at
> _any_ point in the NMI handler would be fatal due to it clobbering the unread #VE
> info (it'd be a similar problem to SEV-ES's GHCB juggling).
I guess this is what Kirill means with:
"The critical part is that #VE must not be triggered in NMI entry code,
before kernel is ready to handle nested NMIs."
I read that as "you die if you get it then" but it sounds like it is
"it'll overwrite #VE info and you'll probably die eventually." Or so.
Yeah, so this commit message text - and I actually think that this is
much more important than to put just in a commit message - so this text
would need a lot more scrubbing and put somewhere - maybe over the #VE
handler - and explain what the situation is wrt NMIs and #VEs. And those
formulations about a TDX guest expecting stuff to be a certain way are
just silly.
TDX guest either enforces them or throws hands in the air and does not
boot.
Thx.
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-14 15:02 [PATCH 00/26] TDX Guest: TDX core support Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 01/26] x86/tdx: Detect running as a TDX guest in early boot Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 18:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-14 20:21 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 20:58 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 02/26] x86/tdx: Extend the cc_platform_has() API to support TDX guests Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-15 23:19 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-12-15 23:35 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-15 23:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-12-16 18:33 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 03/26] x86/tdx: Add __tdx_module_call() and __tdx_hypercall() helper functions Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-21 19:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-23 16:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-23 18:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-24 9:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-24 10:34 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 04/26] x86/traps: Add #VE support for TDX guest Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-23 19:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-28 23:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-29 11:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-29 17:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-29 17:35 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2021-12-29 17:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-30 8:05 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-30 10:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-30 15:41 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-30 18:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-29 18:42 ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 05/26] x86/tdx: Add HLT support for TDX guests (#VE approach) Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-28 19:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 06/26] x86/tdx: Add MSR support for TDX guests Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-29 11:59 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 07/26] x86/tdx: Handle CPUID via #VE Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-31 17:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 08/26] x86/tdx: Handle in-kernel MMIO Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-15 23:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-12-15 23:37 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-06 15:08 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-05 10:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-05 15:43 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-07 13:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-07 17:49 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-07 19:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 09/26] x86/tdx: Detect TDX at early kernel decompression time Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-07 16:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 10/26] x86/tdx: Support TDX guest port I/O at " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-13 13:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-15 1:01 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-15 12:16 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-17 14:39 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-17 18:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-19 11:53 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-19 13:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-19 15:49 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-19 19:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-19 20:08 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-19 20:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-20 2:15 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86: Consolidate port I/O helpers Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-20 2:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/boot: Allow to hook up alternative " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-20 16:38 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-20 21:13 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-01-20 22:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-20 2:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/boot/compressed: Support TDX guest port I/O at decompression time Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 11/26] x86/tdx: Add port I/O emulation Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 12/26] x86/tdx: Early boot handling of port I/O Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 13/26] x86/boot: Add a trampoline for booting APs via firmware handoff Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 14/26] x86/acpi, x86/boot: Add multiprocessor wake-up support Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 15/26] x86/boot: Avoid #VE during boot for TDX platforms Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 16/26] x86/topology: Disable CPU online/offline control for TDX guests Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 17/26] x86/tdx: Get page shared bit info from the TDX Module Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 18/26] x86/tdx: Exclude shared bit from __PHYSICAL_MASK Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 19/26] x86/tdx: Make pages shared in ioremap() Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-22 17:26 ` Tom Lendacky
2021-12-23 17:15 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-23 19:45 ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-23 19:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-23 20:56 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-23 21:09 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-24 11:03 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-27 11:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-27 14:14 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-28 18:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-12-28 23:33 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-27 15:07 ` Tom Lendacky
2022-01-03 14:17 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-03 14:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-01-03 15:15 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-03 16:50 ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-03 18:10 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-04 19:14 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-04 20:36 ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-05 0:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-05 0:43 ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-05 0:57 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-05 1:02 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-05 1:38 ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-05 9:46 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-01-05 14:16 ` Tom Lendacky
2022-01-05 16:02 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 20/26] x86/tdx: Add helper to convert memory between shared and private Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:02 ` [PATCH 21/26] x86/mm/cpa: Add support for TDX shared memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:03 ` [PATCH 22/26] x86/kvm: Use bounce buffers for TD guest Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:03 ` [PATCH 23/26] x86/tdx: ioapic: Add shared bit for IOAPIC base address Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:03 ` [PATCH 24/26] ACPICA: Avoid cache flush on TDX guest Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:03 ` [PATCH 25/26] x86/tdx: Warn about unexpected WBINVD Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-14 15:03 ` [PATCH 26/26] Documentation/x86: Document TDX kernel architecture Kirill A. Shutemov
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