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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: "Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>,
	"Sultan Alsawaf" <sultan@kerneltoast.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Neuschäfer" <j.neuschaefer@gmx.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] random: remove batched entropy locking
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 18:33:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yg6G08tFN5kjamG2@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHmME9q6bm_pXer0aVq907-RevtH8nLPH=Uo2UU6gEKU6GaFwA@mail.gmail.com>

On 2022-02-16 21:58:14 [+0100], Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > Why raw_cpu_ptr? include/linux/percpu-defs.h says about raw_*() operations:
> >
> >  * Operations for contexts where we do not want to do any checks for
> >  * preemptions.  Unless strictly necessary, always use [__]this_cpu_*()
> >  * instead.
> >
> > So when I see a raw_*() percpu thing, I read it as "it is expected
> > that we can migrate after this point (or we're in some really weird
> > context where the normal context check doesn't work)". Is that
> > incorrect?
> 
> If it says "contexts where we do not want to do any checks for
> preemptions", then that would apply here I would think? We're taking a
> local lock, which means afterwards there are no preemptions. For
> context, the code that got committed after Sebastian's final review
> is:
> 
>         local_lock_irqsave(&batched_entropy_u32.lock, flags);
>         batch = raw_cpu_ptr(&batched_entropy_u32);
> 
> However, I think most other code uses this_cpu_ptr() instead? So not sure.

It depends what you are looking for.
raw_cpu_ptr(&batched_entropy_u32) give you the pointer to
&batched_entropy_u32 of _this_ CPU - the CPU you are currently running.
this_cpu_ptr() does the same except that it has smp_processor_id() in
it. smp_processor_id() will yell at you (given you enabled
CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT) if the code can migrate to another CPU.
So it will yell at you unless:
- you disable preemption / migration so code can't migrate
- you run on a per-CPU thread i.e. a thread which is bound to a single
  CPU and therefore can't migrate to another.

The local_lock_irqsave() acquires a lock / disables interrupt and
therefore can't migrate. So I suggested to use raw_cpu_ptr() as an
optimisation in the debug-case.

If you disable preemption before accessing a per-CPU variable with
this_cpu_ptr() then you _need_ to ensure that nobody is accessing the
variable from in-IRQ context. Nobody will yell at you. But if you use a
local-lock then you get lockdep annotation and lockdep will complain if
you use that variable always in process context and sometimes in-IRQ.

> Jason

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-17 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-27 22:21 "BUG: Invalid wait context" in invalidate_batched_entropy Jonathan Neuschäfer
2022-01-27 22:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28  8:34   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-28 16:04     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 16:19       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-28 16:28         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 17:02           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-28 15:33   ` [PATCH] random: remove batched entropy locking Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 15:44     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-28 15:54       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 16:15         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-28 16:36           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 15:48     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 22:35       ` [PATCH v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-29 21:03         ` Jonathan Neuschäfer
2022-02-04  0:27         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-04 11:10           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 13:42             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-04 14:01               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 14:11                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-04 14:30                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 15:39                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-04 15:51                       ` [PATCH v3] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-04 15:57                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 16:12                           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-16 20:01                           ` Jann Horn
2022-02-16 20:58                             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-17 17:33                               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2022-01-28 18:05     ` [PATCH] " Jonathan Neuschäfer
2022-01-29 18:22       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-29  7:10     ` [random] 1e1724f9dd: UBSAN:array-index-out-of-bounds_in_drivers/char/random.c kernel test robot

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