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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Alexey Gladkov <legion@kernel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] copy_process(): Move fd_install() out of sighand->siglock critical section
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 19:07:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YgK/fdYWi0wWysci@zeniv-ca.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bd83aca3-059f-92dd-e094-b27f51f9481a@redhat.com>

On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 01:51:35PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 2/8/22 13:16, Al Viro wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 11:39:12AM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> > 
> > > One way to solve this problem is to move the fd_install() call out of
> > > the sighand->siglock critical section.
> > > 
> > > Before commit 6fd2fe494b17 ("copy_process(): don't use ksys_close()
> > > on cleanups"), the pidfd installation was done without holding both
> > > the task_list lock and the sighand->siglock. Obviously, holding these
> > > two locks are not really needed to protect the fd_install() call.
> > > So move the fd_install() call down to after the releases of both locks.
> > 	Umm... That assumes we can delay it that far.  IOW, that nothing
> > relies upon having pidfd observable in /proc/*/fd as soon as the child
> > becomes visible there in the first place.
> > 
> > 	What warranties are expected from CLONE_PIDFD wrt observation of
> > child's descriptor table?
> > 
> I think the fd_install() call can be moved after the release of
> sighand->siglock but before the release the tasklist_lock. Will that be good
> enough?

Looks like it should, but I'd rather hear from the CLONE_PIDFD authors first...
Christian, could you comment on that?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-08 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-08 16:39 [PATCH] copy_process(): Move fd_install() out of sighand->siglock critical section Waiman Long
2022-02-08 18:16 ` Al Viro
2022-02-08 18:51   ` Waiman Long
2022-02-08 19:07     ` Al Viro [this message]
2022-02-08 21:59       ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-08 22:16         ` Al Viro
2022-02-08 22:25           ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-09 16:25         ` Waiman Long
2022-02-11  8:27       ` Christian Brauner
2022-02-09 22:18 ` Eric W. Biederman

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