From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
vkuznets@redhat.com, mlevitsk@redhat.com, dmatlack@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/12] KVM: MMU: rename kvm_mmu_reload
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 16:16:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YgaLwvo2Gl565H3/@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e05cfc5-55bb-1273-5309-46ed4fe52fed@redhat.com>
On Fri, Feb 11, 2022, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 2/11/22 01:27, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 09, 2022, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > The name of kvm_mmu_reload is very confusing for two reasons:
> > > first, KVM_REQ_MMU_RELOAD actually does not call it; second,
> > > it only does anything if there is no valid root.
> > >
> > > Rename it to kvm_mmu_ensure_valid_root, which matches the actual
> > > behavior better.
> >
> > 100% agree that kvm_mmu_reload() is a terrible name, but kvm_mmu_ensure_valid_root()
> > isn't much better, e.g. it sounds like a sanity check and nothing more.
>
> I would have thought that would be more of a check_valid_root(). There are
> other functions in the kernel following the idea that "ensure" means
> idempotency: skb_ensure_writable, perf_cgroup_ensure_storage,
> btf_ensure_modifiable and libbpf_ensure_mem in libbpf. I'm not a native
> speaker but, at least in computing, "ensure" seems to mean not just "to make
> certain that (something) will be true", but also taking steps if that's not
> already the case.
There's no ambiguity on the "make certain that <x> will be true", it's the second
part about taking steps that's ambiguous. Specifically, it doesn't convey any
information about _what_ steps will be taken, e.g. the below implementation is
also a possibility since it ensures the root is valid by preventing forward
progress if the root is invalid.
static inline int kvm_mmu_ensure_valid_root(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
{
if (unlikely(vcpu->arch.mmu->root.hpa != INVALID_PAGE))
return -EFAULT;
return 0;
}
Existing example of that interpretation are input_dev_ensure_poller() and
rtnl_ensure_unique_netns().
The other nuance that I want to avoid is the implication that KVM is checking for
a valid root because it doesn't trust what has happened before, i.e. that the call
is there as a safeguard. That's misleading for the most common path, vcpu_enter_guest(),
because when the helper does do some work, it's usually because KVM deliberately
invalidated the root.
> I also thought of "establish_valid_root", but it has the opposite
> problem---it does not convey well, if at all, that the root could be valid
> already.
Heh, I agree that "establish" would imply the root is always invalid, but amusingly
"establish" is listed as a synonym for "ensure" on the few sites of checked. Yay English.
I was going to suggest we just open code it in vcpu_enter_guest, but async #PF
uses it too :-/
Can we put this on the backburner for now? IMO, KVM_REQ_MMU_RELOAD is far more
misleading than kvm_mmu_reload(), and I posted a series to remedy that (though I
need to check if it's still viable since you vetoed adding the check for a pending
request in the page fault handler).
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211209060552.2956723-1-seanjc@google.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-11 16:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-09 17:00 [PATCH 00/12] KVM: MMU: do not unload MMU roots on all role changes Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 01/12] KVM: x86: host-initiated EFER.LME write affects the MMU Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-10 22:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 02/12] KVM: MMU: move MMU role accessors to header Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-10 23:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 03/12] KVM: x86: do not deliver asynchronous page faults if CR0.PG=0 Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-10 23:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-10 23:14 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-10 23:16 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-11 11:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 04/12] KVM: MMU: WARN if PAE roots linger after kvm_mmu_unload Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-10 23:20 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-11 11:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 05/12] KVM: MMU: avoid NULL-pointer dereference on page freeing bugs Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 0:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-11 11:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 06/12] KVM: MMU: rename kvm_mmu_reload Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 0:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-11 10:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 16:16 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-02-11 16:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 07/12] KVM: x86: use struct kvm_mmu_root_info for mmu->root Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 17:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 08/12] KVM: MMU: do not consult levels when freeing roots Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 0:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-11 0:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-11 1:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 1:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-11 1:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-11 2:20 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 09/12] KVM: MMU: look for a cached PGD when going from 32-bit to 64-bit Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 1:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-11 1:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-11 10:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 11:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 17:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 10/12] KVM: MMU: load new PGD after the shadow MMU is initialized Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 17:45 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-11 17:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 11/12] KVM: MMU: remove kvm_mmu_calc_root_page_role Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 17:53 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-09 17:00 ` [PATCH 12/12] KVM: x86: do not unload MMU roots on all role changes Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-11 9:08 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-02-11 18:48 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-14 16:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-14 19:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-15 8:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-09 17:07 ` [PATCH 00/12] KVM: MMU: " Sean Christopherson
2022-02-09 17:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-09 17:16 ` Sean Christopherson
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