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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
	Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	Ben Gardon <bgardon@google.com>,
	Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 22/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Zap defunct roots via asynchronous worker
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 22:25:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yh/u7l+q2xZRx/KR@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94b5c78d-3878-1a6c-ab53-37daf3d6eb9c@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 02, 2022, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 3/2/22 21:47, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 02, 2022, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > For now let's do it the simple but ugly way.  Keeping
> > > next_invalidated_root() does not make things worse than the status quo, and
> > > further work will be easier to review if it's kept separate from this
> > > already-complex work.
> > 
> > Oof, that's not gonna work.  My approach here in v3 doesn't work either.  I finally
> > remembered why I had the dedicated tdp_mmu_defunct_root flag and thus the smp_mb_*()
> > dance.
> > 
> > kvm_tdp_mmu_zap_invalidated_roots() assumes that it was gifted a reference to
> > _all_ invalid roots by kvm_tdp_mmu_invalidate_all_roots().  This works in the
> > current code base only because kvm->slots_lock is held for the entire duration,
> > i.e. roots can't become invalid between the end of kvm_tdp_mmu_invalidate_all_roots()
> > and the end of kvm_tdp_mmu_zap_invalidated_roots().
> 
> Yeah, of course that doesn't work if kvm_tdp_mmu_zap_invalidated_roots()
> calls kvm_tdp_mmu_put_root() and the worker also does the same
> kvm_tdp_mmu_put_root().
> 
> But, it seems so me that we were so close to something that works and is
> elegant with the worker idea.  It does avoid the possibility of two "puts",
> because the work item is created on the valid->invalid transition.  What do
> you think of having a separate workqueue for each struct kvm, so that
> kvm_tdp_mmu_zap_invalidated_roots() can be replaced with a flush?

I definitely like the idea, but I'm getting another feeling of deja vu.  Ah, I
think the mess I created was zapping via async worker without a dedicated workqueue,
and so the flush became very annoying/painful.

I have the "dedicated list" idea coded up.  If testing looks good, I'll post it as
a v3.5 (without your xchg() magic or other kvm_tdp_mmu_put_root() changes).  That
way we have a less-awful backup (and/or an intermediate step) if the workqueue
idea is delayed or doesn't work.  Assuming it works, it's much prettier than having
a defunct flag.

> I can probably do it next Friday.

Early-ish warning, I'll be offline March 11th - March 23rd inclusive.  

FWIW, other than saving me from another painful rebase, there's no urgent need to
get this series into 5.18.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-02 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-26  0:15 [PATCH v3 00/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Overhaul TDP MMU zapping and flushing Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 01/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Use common iterator for walking invalid TDP MMU roots Sean Christopherson
2022-03-02 19:08   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-02 19:51     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-03  0:57       ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 02/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Check for present SPTE when clearing dirty bit in TDP MMU Sean Christopherson
2022-03-02 19:50   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 03/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Fix wrong/misleading comments in TDP MMU fast zap Sean Christopherson
2022-02-28 23:15   ` Ben Gardon
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 04/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Formalize TDP MMU's (unintended?) deferred TLB flush logic Sean Christopherson
2022-03-02 23:59   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-03  0:12     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-03  1:20       ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-03  1:41         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-03  4:50           ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-03 16:45             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 05/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Document that zapping invalidated roots doesn't need to flush Sean Christopherson
2022-02-28 23:17   ` Ben Gardon
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 06/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Require mmu_lock be held for write in unyielding root iter Sean Christopherson
2022-02-28 23:26   ` Ben Gardon
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 07/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Check for !leaf=>leaf, not PFN change, in TDP MMU SP removal Sean Christopherson
2022-03-01  0:11   ` Ben Gardon
2022-03-03 18:02   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 08/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Batch TLB flushes from TDP MMU for MMU notifier change_spte Sean Christopherson
2022-03-03 18:08   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 09/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Drop RCU after processing each root in MMU notifier hooks Sean Christopherson
2022-03-03 18:24   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-03 18:32   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 10/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Add helpers to read/write TDP MMU SPTEs and document RCU Sean Christopherson
2022-03-03 18:34   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 11/28] KVM: x86/mmu: WARN if old _or_ new SPTE is REMOVED in non-atomic path Sean Christopherson
2022-03-03 18:37   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 12/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Refactor low-level TDP MMU set SPTE helper to take raw vals Sean Christopherson
2022-03-03 18:47   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 13/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Zap only the target TDP MMU shadow page in NX recovery Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 14/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Skip remote TLB flush when zapping all of TDP MMU Sean Christopherson
2022-03-01  0:19   ` Ben Gardon
2022-03-03 18:50   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 15/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Add dedicated helper to zap TDP MMU root shadow page Sean Christopherson
2022-03-01  0:32   ` Ben Gardon
2022-03-03 21:19   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-03 21:24     ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-03 23:06       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 16/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Require mmu_lock be held for write to zap TDP MMU range Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 17/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Zap only TDP MMU leafs in kvm_zap_gfn_range() Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 18/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Do remote TLB flush before dropping RCU in TDP MMU resched Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 19/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Defer TLB flush to caller when freeing TDP MMU shadow pages Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 20/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Allow yielding when zapping GFNs for defunct TDP MMU root Sean Christopherson
2022-03-01 18:21   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-01 19:43     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-01 20:12       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-02  2:13         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-02 14:54           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-02 17:43             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 21/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Zap roots in two passes to avoid inducing RCU stalls Sean Christopherson
2022-03-01  0:43   ` Ben Gardon
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 22/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Zap defunct roots via asynchronous worker Sean Christopherson
2022-03-01 17:57   ` Ben Gardon
2022-03-02 17:25   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-02 17:35     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-02 18:33       ` David Matlack
2022-03-02 18:36         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-02 18:01     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-02 18:20       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-02 19:33         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-02 20:14           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-02 20:47             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-02 21:22               ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-02 22:25                 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 23/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Check for a REMOVED leaf SPTE before making the SPTE Sean Christopherson
2022-03-01 18:06   ` Ben Gardon
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 24/28] KVM: x86/mmu: WARN on any attempt to atomically update REMOVED SPTE Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 25/28] KVM: selftests: Move raw KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION helper to utils Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 26/28] KVM: selftests: Split out helper to allocate guest mem via memfd Sean Christopherson
2022-02-28 23:36   ` David Woodhouse
2022-03-02 18:36     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-02 21:55       ` David Woodhouse
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 27/28] KVM: selftests: Define cpu_relax() helpers for s390 and x86 Sean Christopherson
2022-02-26  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 28/28] KVM: selftests: Add test to populate a VM with the max possible guest mem Sean Christopherson

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