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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, joao@overdrivepizza.com, hjl.tools@gmail.com,
	andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ndesaulniers@google.com, keescook@chromium.org,
	samitolvanen@google.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	alyssa.milburn@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/29] x86/bugs: Disable Retpoline when IBT
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:00:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YhT6gthym/jCUME4@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220219021530.hq6po7uexc4w36qo@treble>

On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 06:15:30PM -0800, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:

> This code is confusing, not helped by the fact that the existing code
> already looks like spaghetti.

I'd say that's an insult to spaghetti.

> Assuming IBT systems also have eIBRS (right?), I don't think the above
> SPECTRE_V2_CMD_{FORCE,AUTO} cases would be possible.

Virt FTW.. if I don't handle it, some idiot will create a virtual
machine that doesn't expose eIBRS but does do IBT just to spite me.

> AFAICT, if execution reached the retpoline_generic label, the user
> specified either RETPOLINE or RETPOLINE_GENERIC.

Only RETPOLINE_GENERIC;

> I'm not sure it makes sense to put RETPOLINE in the "silent" list.  If
> the user boots an Intel system with spectre_v2=retpoline on the cmdline,
> they're probably expecting a traditional retpoline and should be warned
> if that changes, especially if it's a "demotion".

too friggin bad as to expectations; retpoline == auto. Not saying that
makes sense, just saying that's what it does.

> In that case the switch statement isn't even needed.  It can instead
> just unconditinoally print the warning.
> 
> 
> Also, why "demote" retpoline to LFENCE rather than attempting to
> "promote" it to eIBRS?  Maybe there's a good reason but it probably at
> least deserves some mention in the commit log.

The current code will never select retpoline if eibrs is available.


The alternative is doing this in apply_retpolines(), but that might be
even more nasty.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-22 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-18 16:49 [PATCH 00/29] x86: Kernel IBT Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 01/29] static_call: Avoid building empty .static_call_sites Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 02/29] x86/module: Fix the paravirt vs alternative order Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 20:28   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 21:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 23:28       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 03/29] objtool: Add --dry-run Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 04/29] x86/livepatch: Validate __fentry__ location Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 21:08   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-23 10:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-23 10:21       ` Miroslav Benes
2022-02-23 10:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-23 12:41         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-23 14:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-23 14:16             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-23 14:23           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-23 14:33             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-23 14:49             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-23 15:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 05/29] x86: Base IBT bits Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 20:49   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-18 21:11     ` David Laight
2022-02-18 21:24       ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-18 22:37         ` David Laight
2022-02-18 21:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 21:14   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 21:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 22:12   ` Joao Moreira
2022-02-19  1:07   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 06/29] x86/ibt: Add ANNOTATE_NOENDBR Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 07/29] x86/entry: Sprinkle ENDBR dust Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  0:23   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-19 23:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  0:36   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 08/29] x86/linkage: Add ENDBR to SYM_FUNC_START*() Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 09/29] x86/ibt,paravirt: Sprinkle ENDBR Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 10/29] x86/bpf: Add ENDBR instructions to prologue Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 11/29] x86/ibt,crypto: Add ENDBR for the jump-table entries Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 12/29] x86/ibt,kvm: Add ENDBR to fastops Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 13/29] x86/ibt,ftrace: Add ENDBR to samples/ftrace Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 14/29] x86/ibt: Add IBT feature, MSR and #CP handling Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 19:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-18 21:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  1:20   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-19  1:21   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-19  9:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-21  8:24   ` Kees Cook
2022-02-22  4:38   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-22  9:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 15/29] x86: Disable IBT around firmware Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-21  8:27   ` Kees Cook
2022-02-21 10:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-21 13:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-21 15:54       ` Kees Cook
2022-02-21 16:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 16/29] x86/bugs: Disable Retpoline when IBT Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  2:15   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-22 15:00     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-02-25  0:19       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 17/29] x86/ibt: Annotate text references Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  5:22   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-19  9:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 18/29] x86/ibt,ftrace: Annotate ftrace code patching Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 19/29] x86/ibt,xen: Annotate away warnings Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 20:24   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-18 21:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 23:07       ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-21 14:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 20/29] x86/ibt,sev: Annotations Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 21/29] objtool: Rename --duplicate to --lto Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-26 19:42   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-26 21:48     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-28 11:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-28 18:32         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-28 20:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-28 20:18             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-03-01 14:19               ` Miroslav Benes
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 22/29] Kbuild: Prepare !CLANG whole module objtool Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 23/29] objtool: Read the NOENDBR annotation Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 24/29] x86/text-patching: Make text_gen_insn() IBT aware Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-24  1:18   ` Joao Moreira
2022-02-24  9:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 25/29] x86/ibt: Dont generate ENDBR in .discard.text Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 26/29] objtool: Add IBT validation / fixups Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 27/29] x86/ibt: Finish --ibt-fix-direct on module loading Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 28/29] x86/ibt: Ensure module init/exit points have references Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-18 16:49 ` [PATCH 29/29] x86/alternative: Use .ibt_endbr_sites to seal indirect calls Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19  1:29 ` [PATCH 00/29] x86: Kernel IBT Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-02-19  9:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-19 16:00     ` Andrew Cooper
2022-02-21  8:42     ` Kees Cook
2022-02-21  9:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-23  7:26   ` Kees Cook
2022-02-24 16:47     ` Mike Rapoport

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