From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] random: use SipHash as interrupt entropy accumulator
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 16:23:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yi05ciQRhqa4MoF7@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHmME9rYWyT=t8tU5MZfg6hKUqrz49haKRc51FUC+HjXFGoOdw@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 05:07:05PM -0700, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 2:39 PM Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:51:23AM -0700, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > > For this, we make use of SipHash-1-x on 64-bit and HalfSipHash-1-x on
> > > 32-bit, which are already in use in the kernel and achieve the same
> > > performance as the function they replace. It would be nice to do two
> > > rounds, but we don't exactly have the CPU budget handy for that, and one
> > > round alone is already sufficient.
> > >
> >
> > I'm a bit confused by the argument here. It's not SipHash-1-x that's used
> > elsewhere in the kernel, but rather SipHash-2-4. HalfSipHash-1-3 is used too
>
> Actually the hsiphash family of functions are aliased to SipHash-1-3 on 64-bit:
>
> /* Note that on 64-bit, we make HalfSipHash1-3 actually be SipHash1-3, for
> * performance reasons. On 32-bit, below, we actually implement HalfSipHash1-3.
> */
That isn't mentioned in Documentation/security/siphash.rst at all. It actually
makes it pretty clear that hsiphash() is "HalfSipHash".
> > So on 64-bit platforms it now throws away half of the pool.
> >
> > It should use 'u8 pool[sizeof(fast_pool->pool)]' to avoid hardcoding a size.
>
> Actually the commit message notes that we intentionally dump half of
> it on 64bit. This is intentional.
>
It doesn't explain *why* it does that. Also, the code is much more important
than the commit message, and there's no explanation in the code at all; it just
looks like a bug.
- Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-13 0:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-06 16:51 [PATCH v2] random: use SipHash as interrupt entropy accumulator Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-12 21:39 ` Eric Biggers
2022-03-13 0:07 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-13 0:23 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2022-03-13 0:24 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-13 0:49 ` [PATCH v3] " Jason A. Donenfeld
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