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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Wen Yang <simon.wy@alibaba-inc.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	mark rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, jiri olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	namhyung kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	borislav petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, Wen Yang <wenyang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"h. peter anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH 2/2] perf/x86: improve the event scheduling to avoid unnecessary pmu_stop/start
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 16:39:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YiIyrFn7upPEouVt@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220304110351.47731-2-simon.wy@alibaba-inc.com>

On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 07:03:51PM +0800, Wen Yang wrote:
> this issue has been there for a long time, we could reproduce it as follows:

What issue? You've not described an issue. So you cannot reference one.

This is still completely unreadable gibberish.

> 1, run a script that periodically collects perf data, eg:
> while true
> do
>     perf stat -e cache-misses,cache-misses,cache-misses -c 1 sleep 2
>     perf stat -e cache-misses -c 1 sleep 2
>     sleep 1
> done
> 
> 2, run another one to capture the ipc, eg:
> perf stat -e cycles:d,instructions:d  -c 1 -i 1000

<snip line noise>

> the reason is that the nmi watchdog permanently consumes one fp
> (*cycles*). therefore, when the above shell script obtains *cycles*
> again, only one gp can be used, and its weight is 5.
> but other events (like *cache-misses*) have a weight of 4,
> so the counter used by *cycles* will often be taken away, as in
> the raw data above:
> [1]
>   n_events = 3
>   assign = {33, 1, 32, ...}
> -->
>   n_events = 6
>   assign = {33, 3, 32, 0, 1, 2, ...}

Again unreadable... what do any of those numbers mean?

> 
> so it will cause unnecessary pmu_stop/start and also cause abnormal cpi.

How?!?

> Cloud servers usually continuously monitor the cpi data of some important
> services. This issue affects performance and misleads monitoring.
> 
> The current event scheduling algorithm is more than 10 years old:
> commit 1da53e023029 ("perf_events, x86: Improve x86 event scheduling")

irrelevant

> we wish it could be optimized a bit.

I wish for a unicorn ...

> The fields msk_counters and msk_events are added to indicate currently
> used counters and events so that the used ones can be skipped
> in __perf_sched_find_counter and perf_sched_next_event functions to avoid
> unnecessary pmu_stop/start.

Still not sure what your actual problem is, nor what the actual proposal
is.

Why should I attempt to reverse engineer your code without basic
understanding of what you're actually trying to achieve?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-04 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-04 11:03 [RESEND PATCH 1/2] perf/x86: extract code to assign perf events for both core and uncore Wen Yang
2022-03-04 11:03 ` [RESEND PATCH 2/2] perf/x86: improve the event scheduling to avoid unnecessary pmu_stop/start Wen Yang
2022-03-04 15:39   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2022-03-06 14:36     ` Wen Yang
2022-03-07 17:14       ` Stephane Eranian
2022-03-08  6:42         ` Wen Yang
2022-03-08 12:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-08 12:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-10  3:50         ` Wen Yang
2022-03-14 10:55           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-17 17:54             ` Wen Yang
2022-04-17 15:06               ` Wen Yang
2022-04-19 14:16                 ` Wen Yang
2022-04-19 20:57                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-19 21:18                     ` Stephane Eranian
2022-04-20 14:44                       ` Wen Yang

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