From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Oliver Upton <oupton@google.com>, Peter Shier <pshier@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/21] KVM: x86: Event/exception fixes and cleanups
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 17:50:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YkH1e2kyFlQN3Hl9@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e605082ac8361c1932bfddfe2055660c7cea5f2b.camel@redhat.com>
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> Other than that I am actually very happy that you posted this patch series,
> as this gives more chance that this long standing issue will be fixed,
> and if your patches are better/simpler/less invasive to KVM and still address the issue,
> I fully support using them instead of mine.
I highly doubt they're simpler or less invasive, but I do hope that the approach
wil be easier to maintain.
> Totally agree with you about your thoughts about splitting pending/injected exception,
> I also can't say I liked my approach that much, for the same reasons you mentioned.
>
> It is also the main reason I put the whole thing on the backlog lately,
> because I was feeling that I am changing too much of the KVM,
> for a relatively theoretical issue.
>
>
> I will review your patches, compare them to mine, and check if you or I missed something.
>
> PS:
>
> Back then, I also did an extensive review on few cases when qemu injects exceptions itself,
> which it does thankfully rarely. There are several (theoretical) issues there.
> I don't remember those details, I need to refresh my memory.
>
> AFAIK, qemu injects #MC sometimes when it gets it from the kernel in form of a signal,
> if I recall this correctly, and it also reflects back #DB, when guest debug was enabled
> (and that is the reason for some work I did in this area, like the KVM_GUESTDBG_BLOCKIRQ thing)
>
> Qemu does this without considering nested and/or pending exception/etc.
> It just kind of abuses the KVM_SET_VCPU_EVENTS for that.
I wouldn't call that abuse, the ioctl() isn't just for migration. Not checking for
a pending exception is firmly a userspace bug and not something KVM should try to
fix.
For #DB, I suspect it's a non-issue. The exit is synchronous, so unless userspace
is deferring the reflection, which would be architecturally wrong in and of itself,
there can never be another pending exception.
For #MC, I think the correct behavior would be to defer the synthesized #MC if there's
a pending exception and resume the guest until the exception is injected. E.g. if a
different task encounters the real #MC, the synthesized #MC will be fully asynchronous
and may be coincident with a pending exception that is unrelated to the #MC. That
would require to userspace to enable KVM_CAP_EXCEPTION_PAYLOAD, otherwise userspace
won't be able to differentiate between a pending and injected exception, e.g. if the
#MC occurs during exception vectoring, userspace should override the injected exception
and synthesize #MC, otherwise it would likely soft hang the guest.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-28 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-11 3:27 [PATCH 00/21] KVM: x86: Event/exception fixes and cleanups Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 01/21] KVM: x86: Return immediately from x86_emulate_instruction() on code #DB Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 02/21] KVM: nVMX: Unconditionally purge queued/injected events on nested "exit" Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 03/21] KVM: VMX: Drop bits 31:16 when shoving exception error code into VMCS Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 04/21] KVM: x86: Don't check for code breakpoints when emulating on exception Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 05/21] KVM: nVMX: Treat General Detect #DB (DR7.GD=1) as fault-like Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 06/21] KVM: nVMX: Prioritize TSS T-flag #DBs over Monitor Trap Flag Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 07/21] KVM: x86: Treat #DBs from the emulator as fault-like (code and DR7.GD=1) Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 08/21] KVM: x86: Use DR7_GD macro instead of open coding check in emulator Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 09/21] KVM: nVMX: Ignore SIPI that arrives in L2 when vCPU is not in WFS Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 10/21] KVM: nVMX: Unconditionally clear mtf_pending on nested VM-Exit Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 11/21] KVM: VMX: Inject #PF on ENCLS as "emulated" #PF Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 12/21] KVM: x86: Rename kvm_x86_ops.queue_exception to inject_exception Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 13/21] KVM: x86: Make kvm_queued_exception a properly named, visible struct Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 14/21] KVM: x86: Formalize blocking of nested pending exceptions Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 15/21] KVM: x86: Use kvm_queue_exception_e() to queue #DF Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 16/21] KVM: x86: Hoist nested event checks above event injection logic Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 17/21] KVM: x86: Evaluate ability to inject SMI/NMI/IRQ after potential VM-Exit Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 18/21] KVM: x86: Morph pending exceptions to pending VM-Exits at queue time Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:27 ` [PATCH 19/21] KVM: VMX: Update MTF and ICEBP comments to document KVM's subtle behavior Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:28 ` [PATCH 20/21] KVM: selftests: Use uapi header to get VMX and SVM exit reasons/codes Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 3:28 ` [PATCH 21/21] KVM: selftests: Add an x86-only test to verify nested exception queueing Sean Christopherson
2022-03-11 16:30 ` [PATCH 00/21] KVM: x86: Event/exception fixes and cleanups Maciej S. Szmigiero
2022-03-13 9:22 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-03-24 21:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-25 21:25 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2022-03-25 23:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-26 0:21 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2022-03-27 15:06 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-03-28 17:50 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-03-29 10:45 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-03-29 15:43 ` Sean Christopherson
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