From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Balbir Singh <sblbir@amazon.com>,
Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] x86/speculation, KVM: only IBPB for switch_mm_always_ibpb on vCPU load
Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 14:22:11 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ynp1E73OZtXudLUH@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E46337F-79CB-4ADA-B8C0-009E7500EDF8@nutanix.com>
On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, Jon Kohler wrote:
>
> > On Apr 30, 2022, at 5:50 AM, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> > So let me try to understand this use case: you have a guest and a bunch
> > of vCPUs which belong to it. And that guest gets switched between those
> > vCPUs and KVM does IBPB flushes between those vCPUs.
> >
> > So either I'm missing something - which is possible - but if not, that
> > "protection" doesn't make any sense - it is all within the same guest!
> > So that existing behavior was silly to begin with so we might just as
> > well kill it.
>
> Close, its not 1 guest with a bunch of vCPU, its a bunch of guests with
> a small amount of vCPUs, thats the small nuance here, which is one of
> the reasons why this was hard to see from the beginning.
>
> AFAIK, the KVM IBPB is avoided when switching in between vCPUs
> belonging to the same vmcs/vmcb (i.e. the same guest), e.g. you could
> have one VM highly oversubscribed to the host and you wouldn’t see
> either the KVM IBPB or the switch_mm IBPB. All good.
No, KVM does not avoid IBPB when switching between vCPUs in a single VM. Every
vCPU has a separate VMCS/VMCB, and so the scenario described above where a single
VM has a bunch of vCPUs running on a limited set of logical CPUs will emit IBPB
on every single switch.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-10 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-22 16:21 [PATCH v3] x86/speculation, KVM: only IBPB for switch_mm_always_ibpb on vCPU load Jon Kohler
2022-04-28 12:51 ` Jon Kohler
2022-04-29 16:59 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-29 17:31 ` Jon Kohler
2022-04-29 19:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-29 20:08 ` Jon Kohler
2022-04-29 20:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-29 20:59 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-29 21:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-29 22:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-29 23:23 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-30 9:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-30 14:50 ` Jon Kohler
2022-04-30 16:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-06 15:42 ` Jon Kohler
2022-05-10 14:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-10 15:03 ` Jon Kohler
2022-05-10 15:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-12 13:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-05-12 17:56 ` Jon Kohler
2022-05-10 14:22 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-05-10 14:49 ` Jon Kohler
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