From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF33C4332F for ; Wed, 25 May 2022 07:37:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S244349AbiEYHhf (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 May 2022 03:37:35 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:47432 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S243659AbiEYHhY (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 May 2022 03:37:24 -0400 Received: from mail.skyhub.de (mail.skyhub.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:190:11c2::b:1457]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65B555F8DA for ; Wed, 25 May 2022 00:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zn.tnic (p200300ea97465795329c23fffea6a903.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:ea:9746:5795:329c:23ff:fea6:a903]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.skyhub.de (SuperMail on ZX Spectrum 128k) with ESMTPSA id 07E8A1EC026E; Wed, 25 May 2022 09:37:15 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alien8.de; s=dkim; t=1653464235; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references; bh=8u5f+st9be8iJPgGCFOASHddewdsOrOCFvjK4bbUSVU=; b=ctaPw7KVSiAvPMgNMRyeGT7aSyjB31H3tD1si+l+fG7o/4TqeFxReX/mAFe2PmB/VcYDIq o1GJ+LJ3gk3lpWNX1XiTEMqxf1L5YjGL604Sl91Yo+EIsdrCKZJEQqQAyqaXdw8qKux2bO M83x+KxaJr1qKBkEtR4zLtF4FZqQ1YM= Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 09:37:09 +0200 From: Borislav Petkov To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: "Luck, Tony" , X86 ML , LKML Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] x86/microcode: Taint and warn on late loading Message-ID: References: <20220524185324.28395-1-bp@alien8.de> <20220524185324.28395-4-bp@alien8.de> <20220525065940.GF2578@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20220525065940.GF2578@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 08:59:40AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 06:03:04PM -0700, Luck, Tony wrote: > > On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 08:53:24PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote: > > > + add_taint(TAINT_CPU_OUT_OF_SPEC, LOCKDEP_STILL_OK); > > > > Seems harsh. Updating microcode to the latest is arguably the > > way to make sure that your CPU stays "IN_SPEC" (since the microcode > > may have a fix for a functional issue). > > Then use early loading. There's too many fails associated with late > loading. Yes, short of TAINT_YOU_DID_SOMETHING_DANGEROUS we simply don't have a better taint flag. -- Regards/Gruss, Boris. https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette