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On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 09:34:46AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:

> I'm very sure, otherwise we're just accepting that we're breaking real
> world applications.

"Breaking" as in "it used to work with earlier kernels, doesn't work with
recent ones"?  Details, please...