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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] random: convert to using iters, for Al Viro
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 17:55:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yoe52RaMayvgodVW@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0a6ed6b9-0917-0d83-5c45-70ff58fad429@kernel.dk>

Hi Jens,

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 09:44:25AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> Ran 32, 1k, 4k here and it does seem to be down aboout 3%. Which is
> definitely bigger than I expected, particularly for larger reads. If
> anything, the 32b read seems comparably better than eg 1k or 4k, which
> is also unexpected. Let me do a bit of profiling to see what is up.

Something to keep in mind wrt 32b is that for complicated crypto
reasons, the function has this logic:

- If len <= 32, generate one 64 byte block and give <= 32 bytes of it to
  the caller.

- If len > 32, generate one 64 byte block, but give 0 of it to the
  caller. Then generate ⌈len/64⌉ blocks for the caller.

Put together, this means:

- 1..32, 1 block
- 33..64, 2 blocks
- 65..128, 3 blocks
- 129..196, 4 blocks

So you get this sort of shelf where the amortization benefits don't
really kick in until after 3 blocks.

> If you're worried about it, I'd just keep the read/write and add the
> iter variants on the side.
 
Not a chance of that. These functions are already finicky as-is; I would
really hate to have to duplicate all of these paths.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-20 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-20  9:44 [PATCH v4 0/3] random: convert to using iters, for Al Viro Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20  9:44 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] random: convert to using fops->read_iter() Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 13:37   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 14:36     ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 14:39       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 15:12         ` Al Viro
2022-05-20  9:44 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] random: convert to using fops->write_iter() Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20  9:44 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] random: wire up fops->splice_{read,write}_iter() Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 12:16 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] random: convert to using iters, for Al Viro Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 15:25 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 15:34   ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 15:39     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 15:44       ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 15:55         ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-05-20 15:58           ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 16:03             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 16:06               ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 15:46     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 15:51       ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 15:58         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 16:00           ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 15:47     ` Al Viro
2022-05-20 15:53       ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 16:15         ` Al Viro
2022-05-20 16:24           ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 16:39             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 16:41               ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-24  4:52                 ` Eric W. Biederman

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