public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking/lockdep: Use sched_clock() for random numbers.
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 10:16:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YqbyUfp8e4CZoFBT@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yqbv17P9eLH0YdPG@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 10:05:43AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 11:53:43AM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > Hi Sebastian,
> > 
> > Interesting RT consideration. I hope there aren't too many of these
> > special cases that would necessitate a general mechanism. Fingers
> > crossed this is the only one.
> > 
> > On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 11:16:14AM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > -			cookie.val = 1 + (prandom_u32() >> 16);
> > > +			cookie.val = 1 + (sched_clock() & 0xffff);
> > >  			hlock->pin_count += cookie.val;
> >  
> > I have no idea what the requirements here are.
> 
> Mostly nothing. It's debug code, and if someone wants to circumvent they
> can, but then their code is ugly and stands out like a sort thumb which
> then serves its goal as it won't pass review etc..
> 
> > What would happen if you
> > just did atomic_inc_return(&some_global) instead? That'd be faster
> > anyhow, and it's not like 16 bits gives you much variance anyway...
> 
> That would in fact be slower, sched_clock() will, on any sane hardware,
> be a rdtsc, mul and shr, which are all local.

Fine by me. Given Sasha's comment, we should probably get this queued up
in somebody's tree asap?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-13  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-17  9:16 [PATCH] locking/lockdep: Use sched_clock() for random numbers Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-05-17  9:53 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-17  9:59   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-17 12:08     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-06-13  8:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-06-13  8:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-06-13  8:16     ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-06-07 16:51 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-06-12 15:43 ` Sasha Levin
2022-06-13  8:36 ` [tip: locking/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=YqbyUfp8e4CZoFBT@zx2c4.com \
    --to=jason@zx2c4.com \
    --cc=bigeasy@linutronix.de \
    --cc=boqun.feng@gmail.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=longman@redhat.com \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=tytso@mit.edu \
    --cc=will@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox