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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] printk: allow direct console printing to be enabled always
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 19:03:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YrCoYrZy63rPJbEF@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YrCnJTIB/7MexV3K@alley>

Hi Petr,

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 06:58:13PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Mon 2022-06-20 01:33:02, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > In 5.19, there are some changes in printk message ordering /
> > interleaving which leads to confusion. The most obvious (and benign)
> > example appears on system boot, in which the "Run /init as init process"
> > message gets intermixed with the messages that init actually writes() to
> > stdout. For example, here's a snippet from build.wireguard.com:
> > 
> > --- a/lib/Kconfig.debug
> > +++ b/lib/Kconfig.debug
> > @@ -35,6 +35,18 @@ config PRINTK_CALLER
> >  	  no option to enable/disable at the kernel command line parameter or
> >  	  sysfs interface.
> >  
> > +config PRINTK_DIRECT
> > +	bool "Attempt to flush printk output immediately"
> > +	depends on PRINTK
> > +	help
> > +	  Rather than using kthreads for printk output, always attempt to write
> > +	  to the console immediately. This has performance implications, but
> > +	  will result in a more faithful ordering and interleaving with other
> > +	  processes writing to the console.
> > +
> > +	  Say N here unless you really need this. This may also be controlled
> > +	  at boot time with printk.direct=0/1.
> > +
> 
> I am fine with the patch except for the config option. Is there
> any particular reason why we need it, please?

It's a debug option that I'd like to be able to easily build my CI
kernels with, just like various other debug options.

Jason

> We should be careful to add new build options in general because they
> make building the kernel more complicated. People need to understand
> what each option is about and what they want.

This one doesn't, really. It'd hidden away in the debug menu.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-20 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-17 13:23 5.19 printk breaks message ordering Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-17 13:37 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-17 13:38   ` [PATCH] printk: allow direct console printing to be enabled always Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-19  0:30     ` Randy Dunlap
2022-06-19  8:37       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-19 11:05     ` John Ogness
2022-06-19 20:39       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-19 20:43         ` [PATCH v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-19 23:17           ` John Ogness
2022-06-19 23:28             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-19 23:33               ` [PATCH v3] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-20 16:58                 ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-20 17:03                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-06-21  9:43                   ` David Laight
2022-06-21  9:59                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-22 12:55                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-20  4:04             ` [PATCH v2] " David Laight
2022-06-20  5:17             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-06-20  7:56               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-21  1:34                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-06-21 21:47               ` John Ogness
2022-06-17 14:21 ` 5.19 printk breaks message ordering Petr Mladek
2022-06-17 14:41   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-17 15:01   ` David Laight
2022-06-19  8:15     ` John Ogness
2022-06-19 14:24       ` David Laight

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