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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] workqueue: Unbind workers before sending them to exit()
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 07:30:22 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YuAkroXHF+Zg45KU@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xhsmh8rohfq6m.mognet@vschneid.remote.csb>

Hello,

On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 11:21:37AM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 22/07/22 19:16, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 02:53:43PM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> >> > I think it needs something like task_set_cpumask_possible() which is
> >> > documented as being usable in (raw) spinlocks and set the task's cpumask
> >> > to cpu_possible_mask and let the later ttwu help migrate it to a
> >> > proper non-isolated CPU or let it keep running.
> >> 
> >> I'll see what I can come up with, thanks for the suggestion.
> >
> > Alternatively, we can just kill all the idle kworkers on isolated cpus at
> > the end of the booting process.
> 
> Hm so my choice of words in the changelog wasn't great - "initial setup"
> can be kernel init, but *also* setup of whatever workload is being deployed
> onto the system.
> 
> So you can be having "normal" background activity (I've seen some IRQs end
> up with schedule_work() on isolated CPUs, they're not moved away at boot
> time but rather shortly before launching the latency-sensitive app), some
> preliminary stats collection / setup to make sure the CPU will be quiet
> (e.g. refresh_vm_stats()), and *then* the application starts with
> fresh-but-no-longer-required extra pcpu kworkers assigned to its CPU.

Ah, I see. I guess we'll need to figure out how to unbind the workers then.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-26 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-19 16:57 [RFC PATCH] workqueue: Unbind workers before sending them to exit() Valentin Schneider
2022-07-20 17:54 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-07-20 18:03 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-21  3:35   ` Lai Jiangshan
2022-07-21 13:53     ` Valentin Schneider
2022-07-23  5:16       ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-25 10:21         ` Valentin Schneider
2022-07-26 17:30           ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2022-07-26 20:36             ` Valentin Schneider
2022-07-26 22:59               ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-27  5:38               ` Lai Jiangshan
2022-07-27  6:30                 ` Lai Jiangshan
2022-07-27  8:55                   ` Lai Jiangshan
2022-07-27  9:22                     ` Valentin Schneider

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