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From: Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 net-next 6/6] selftests: forwarding: add test of MAC-Auth Bypass to locked port tests
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 10:40:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YwxtVhlPjq+M9QMY@shredder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7654860e4d7d43c15d482c6caeb6a773@kapio-technology.com>

On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 02:00:29PM +0200, netdev@kapio-technology.com wrote:
> On 2022-08-27 20:21, Ido Schimmel wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 01:45:38PM +0200, Hans Schultz wrote:
> > > +locked_port_mab()
> > > +{
> > > +	RET=0
> > > +	check_locked_port_support || return 0
> > > +
> > > +	ping_do $h1 192.0.2.2
> > > +	check_err $? "MAB: Ping did not work before locking port"
> > > +
> > > +	bridge link set dev $swp1 locked on
> > > +	bridge link set dev $swp1 learning on
> > 
> > "locked on learning on" is counter intuitive and IMO very much a
> > misconfiguration that we should have disallowed when the "locked" option
> > was introduced. It is my understanding that the only reason we are even
> > talking about it is because mv88e6xxx needs it for MAB for some reason.
> 
> As the way mv88e6xxx implements "learning off" is to remove port association
> for ingress packets on a port, but that breaks many other things such as
> refreshing ATU entries and violation interrupts, so it is needed and the
> question is then what is the worst to have 'learning on' on a locked port or
> to have the locked port enabling learning in the driver silently?
> 
> Opinions seem to differ. Note that even on locked ports without MAB, port
> association on ingress is still needed in future as I have a dynamic ATU
> patch set coming, that uses age out violation and hardware refreshing to let
> the hardware keep the dynamic entries as long as the authorized station is
> sending, but will age the entry out if the station keeps silent for the
> ageing time. But that patch set is dependent on this patch set, and I don't
> think I can send it before this is accepted...

Can you explain how you envision user space to work once everything is
merged? I want to make sure we have the full picture before more stuff
is merged. From what you describe, I expect the following:

1. Create topology, assuming two unauthorized ports:

# ip link add name br0 type bridge no_linklocal_learn 1 (*)
# ip link set dev swp1 master br0
# ip link set dev swp2 master br0
# bridge link set dev swp1 learning on locked on
# bridge link set dev swp2 learning on locked on
# ip link set dev swp1 up
# ip link set dev swp2 up
# ip link set dev br0 up

2. Assuming h1 behind swp1 was authorized using 802.1X:

# bridge fdb replace $H1_MAC dev swp1 master dynamic

3. Assuming 802.1X authentication failed for h2 behind swp2, enable MAB:

# bridge link set dev swp2 mab on

4. Assuming $H2_MAC is in our allow list:

# bridge fdb replace $H2_MAC dev swp2 master dynamic

Learning is on in order to refresh the dynamic entries that user space
installed.

(*) Need to add support for this option in iproute2. Already exposed
over netlink (see 'IFLA_BR_MULTI_BOOLOPT').

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-29  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-26 11:45 [PATCH v5 net-next 0/6] Extend locked port feature with FDB locked flag (MAC-Auth/MAB) Hans Schultz
2022-08-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 net-next 1/6] net: bridge: add locked entry fdb flag to extend locked port feature Hans Schultz
2022-08-27 11:30   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-08-27 13:17     ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-27 13:54       ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-08-28 11:24       ` netdev
2022-08-28 11:21     ` netdev
2022-08-29 11:09     ` netdev
2022-08-29 11:43     ` netdev
2022-08-29 14:02     ` netdev
2022-08-29 16:12       ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-29 16:26         ` netdev
2022-08-30 14:19         ` netdev
2022-09-03 14:27           ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-27 15:19   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-28 10:23     ` netdev
2022-08-29  7:52       ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-29  8:04         ` netdev
2022-08-29  9:51         ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-08-29  9:32     ` netdev
2022-08-29 11:01     ` netdev
2022-08-29 11:34     ` netdev
2022-08-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 net-next 2/6] net: switchdev: add support for offloading of fdb locked flag Hans Schultz
2022-08-27 15:46   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-27 15:52     ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-08-28 11:27     ` netdev
2022-08-27 18:34   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 net-next 3/6] drivers: net: dsa: add locked fdb entry flag to drivers Hans Schultz
2022-08-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 net-next 4/6] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: allow reading FID when handling ATU violations Hans Schultz
2022-08-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 net-next 5/6] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: MacAuth/MAB implementation Hans Schultz
2022-08-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 net-next 6/6] selftests: forwarding: add test of MAC-Auth Bypass to locked port tests Hans Schultz
2022-08-27 18:21   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-28 12:00     ` netdev
2022-08-29  7:40       ` Ido Schimmel [this message]
2022-08-29  8:01         ` netdev
2022-08-29 11:32           ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-29 12:04             ` netdev
2022-08-29 14:37               ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-29 15:08                 ` netdev
2022-08-29 16:03                   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-29 16:13                     ` netdev
2022-09-03 14:47                       ` Ido Schimmel
2022-09-07 21:10                         ` netdev
2022-09-08  7:59                           ` Ido Schimmel
2022-09-08 11:14                             ` netdev
2022-09-08 11:20                               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-09 13:11                                 ` netdev
2022-09-11  0:13                                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-11  9:23                                     ` netdev
2022-09-12  9:08                                       ` Ido Schimmel
2022-09-20 21:29                                         ` netdev
2022-09-21  7:15                                           ` Ido Schimmel
2022-09-22 20:35                                             ` netdev
2022-09-27 15:19                                               ` [Bridge] " Petr Machata
2022-09-23 11:34                                             ` netdev
2022-09-23 12:21                                               ` netdev
2022-09-23 12:01                                             ` netdev
2022-09-27  8:33                                             ` netdev
2022-09-28  6:59                                               ` Ido Schimmel
2022-09-28  7:29                                                 ` netdev
2022-09-28  7:47                                                 ` netdev
2022-09-28  8:46                                                   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-09-28 10:16                                                     ` netdev
2022-09-28 10:19                                                     ` netdev
2022-09-29 22:26                                                     ` netdev
2022-09-21 19:53                                         ` netdev
2022-08-29  8:55         ` netdev
2022-08-29 16:07     ` netdev
2022-09-03 14:49       ` Ido Schimmel

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