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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] KVM: EFER.LMSLE cleanup
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:54:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YysXeXKY36yXj68q@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eRG6g-95zCxTD1NnxpZ+Vm6VMTA0_uaHV=b-hDkeOYSuA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 06:45:24AM -0700, Jim Mattson wrote:
> EFER.LMLSE is not a reserved bit on AMD64 CPUs, unless
> CPUID.80000008:EBX[20] is set (or you're running very, very old
> hardware).
> 
> We really shouldn't just decide on a whim to treat EFER.LMSLE as
> reserved under KVM. The guest CPUID information represents our
> detailed contract with the guest software. By setting
> CPUID.80000008:EBX[20], we are telling the guest that if it tries to
> set EFER.LMSLE, we will raise a #GP.

I understand all that. What I'm asking is, what happens in KVM *after*
your patch 1/3 is applied when a guest tries to set EFER.LMSLE? Does it
#GP or does it allow the WRMSR to succeed? I.e., does KVM check when
reserved bits in that MSR are being set?

By looking at it, there's kvm_enable_efer_bits() so it looks like KVM
does control which bits are allowed to set and which not...?

> If we don't set that bit in the guest CPUID information and we raise
> #GP on an attempt to set EFER.LMSLE, the virtual hardware is
> defective.

See, this is what I don't get - why is it defective? After the revert,
that bit to KVM is reserved.

> We could document this behavior as an erratum, but since a
> mechanism exists to declare that the guest can expect EFER.LMSLE to
> #GP, doesn't it make sense to use it?

I don't mind all that and the X86_FEATURE bit and so on - I'm just
trying to ask you guys: what is KVM's behavior when the guest tries to
set a reserved EFER bit.

Maybe I'm not expressing myself precisely enough...

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-21 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-20 20:59 [PATCH v2 0/3] KVM: EFER.LMSLE cleanup Jim Mattson
2022-09-20 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Revert "KVM: SVM: Allow EFER.LMSLE to be set with nested svm" Jim Mattson
2022-09-20 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] x86/cpufeatures: Introduce X86_FEATURE_NO_LMSLE Jim Mattson
2022-09-21 16:07   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-20 20:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] KVM: SVM: Unconditionally enumerate EferLmsleUnsupported Jim Mattson
2022-10-07 22:41   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-20 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] KVM: EFER.LMSLE cleanup Borislav Petkov
2022-09-20 21:36   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-20 21:36   ` Jim Mattson
2022-09-21  9:28     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-21 13:45       ` Jim Mattson
2022-09-21 13:54         ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2022-09-21 15:11           ` Jim Mattson
2022-09-21 16:06             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-21 16:23               ` Jim Mattson
2022-09-21 17:11                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-21 17:45                   ` Jim Mattson

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