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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<x86@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"open list:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" 
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm/x86: reserve bit KVM_HINTS_PHYS_ADDRESS_SIZE_DATA_VALID
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:00:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yysm8/Nkt6EUI5+k@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220921134246.xibospqoktp4wjie@sirius.home.kraxel.org>

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 09, 2022 at 07:02:24AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 02:52:36PM +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 08, 2022, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > > > -#define KVM_HINTS_REALTIME      0
> > > > +#define KVM_HINTS_REALTIME                      0
> > > > +#define KVM_HINTS_PHYS_ADDRESS_SIZE_DATA_VALID  1
> > > 
> > > Why does KVM need to get involved?  This is purely a userspace problem.
> > 
> > It doesn't.  I only need reserve a hints bit, and the canonical source
> > for that happens to live in the kernel.  That's why this patch doesn't
> > touch any actual code ;)

The issue is that this "hint" effectively breaks other VMMs that already provide
an accurate guest.MAXPHYADDR.

> > > E.g. why not use QEMU's fw_cfg to communicate this information to the
> > > guest?
> > 
> > That is indeed the other obvious way to implement this.  Given this
> > information will be needed in code paths which already do CPUID queries
> > using CPUID to transport that information looked like the better option
> > to me.
> 
> I'd like to move forward with this.
> 
> So, any comment further comments and opinions?
> Is it ok to grab a hints bit given the explanation above?
> Or should I go for the fw_cfg approach?

My strong preference is the fw_cfg approach, or if the guest side really wants to
use CPUID, have QEMU define it's own CPUID signature and provide QEMU-specific
hints/quirks that way.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-21 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-08 11:41 [PATCH] kvm/x86: reserve bit KVM_HINTS_PHYS_ADDRESS_SIZE_DATA_VALID Gerd Hoffmann
2022-09-08 14:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-09  5:02   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-09-09  9:02     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-09-09 14:53       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-13  9:40         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-09-21 13:42     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-09-21 15:00       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-09-21 16:32         ` Jim Mattson
2022-09-22  5:40           ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-22 12:24           ` Paolo Bonzini

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