From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
rushikesh.s.kadam@intel.com, neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com,
frederic@kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/4] rcu: Make call_rcu() lazy to save power
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 21:02:21 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YzITXYGIqfRIebIH@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YzH+XAVSlHpuWYoD@pc636>
On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 09:32:44PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
[...]
> > > > On my KVM machine the boot time is affected:
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > > [ 2.273406] e1000 0000:00:03.0 eth0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection
> > > > [ 11.945283] e1000 0000:00:03.0 ens3: renamed from eth0
> > > > [ 22.165198] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] scsi3-mmc drive: 4x/4x cd/rw xa/form2 tray
> > > > [ 22.165206] cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
> > > > [ 32.406981] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
> > > > [ 104.115418] process '/usr/bin/fstype' started with executable stack
> > > > [ 104.170142] EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Quota mode: none.
> > > > [ 104.340125] systemd[1]: systemd 241 running in system mode. (+PAM +AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +APPARMOR +SMACK +SYSVINIT +UTMP +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +GNUTLS +ACL +XZ +LZ4 +SECCOMP +BLKID +ELFUTILS +KMOD -IDN2 +IDN -PCRE2 default-hierarchy=hybrid)
> > > > [ 104.340193] systemd[1]: Detected virtualization kvm.
> > > > [ 104.340196] systemd[1]: Detected architecture x86-64.
> > > > [ 104.359032] systemd[1]: Set hostname to <pc638>.
> > > > [ 105.740109] random: crng init done
> > > > [ 105.741267] systemd[1]: Reached target Remote File Systems.
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > 2 - 11 and second delay is between 32 - 104. So there are still users which must
> > > > be waiting for "RCU" in a sync way.
> > >
> > > I was wondering if you can compare boot logs and see which timestamp does the
> > > slow down start from. That way, we can narrow down the callback. Also another
> > > idea is, add "trace_event=rcu:rcu_callback,rcu:rcu_invoke_callback
> > > ftrace_dump_on_oops" to the boot params, and then manually call
> > > "tracing_off(); panic();" from the code at the first printk that seems off in
> > > your comparison of good vs bad. For example, if "crng init done" timestamp is
> > > off, put the "tracing_off(); panic();" there. Then grab the serial console
> > > output to see what were the last callbacks that was queued/invoked.
> >
> > We do seem to be in need of some way to quickly and easily locate the
> > callback that needed to be _flush() due to a wakeup.
> >
> <snip>
> diff --git a/kernel/workqueue.c b/kernel/workqueue.c
> index aeea9731ef80..fe1146d97f1a 100644
> --- a/kernel/workqueue.c
> +++ b/kernel/workqueue.c
> @@ -1771,7 +1771,7 @@ bool queue_rcu_work(struct workqueue_struct *wq, struct rcu_work *rwork)
>
> if (!test_and_set_bit(WORK_STRUCT_PENDING_BIT, work_data_bits(work))) {
> rwork->wq = wq;
> - call_rcu(&rwork->rcu, rcu_work_rcufn);
> + call_rcu_flush(&rwork->rcu, rcu_work_rcufn);
> return true;
> }
>
> <snip>
>
> ?
>
> But it does not fully solve my boot-up issue. Will debug tomorrow further.
Ah, but at least its progress, thanks. Could you send me a patch to include
in the next revision with details of this?
> > Might one more proactive approach be to use Coccinelle to locate such
> > callback functions? We might not want -all- callbacks that do wakeups
> > to use call_rcu_flush(), but knowing which are which should speed up
> > slow-boot debugging by quite a bit.
> >
> > Or is there a better way to do this?
> >
> I am not sure what Coccinelle is. If we had something automated that measures
> a boot time and if needed does some profiling it would be good. Otherwise it
> is a manual debugging mainly, IMHO.
Paul, What about using a default-off kernel CONFIG that splats on all lazy
call_rcu() callbacks that do a wake up. We could use the trace hooks to do it
in kernel I think. I can talk to Steve to get ideas on how to do that but I
think it can be done purely from trace events (we might need a new
trace_end_invoke_callback to fire after the callback is invoked). Thoughts?
thanks,
- Joel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-26 21:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-22 22:01 [PATCH v6 0/4] rcu: call_rcu() power improvements Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-09-22 22:01 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] rcu: Make call_rcu() lazy to save power Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-09-23 21:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-24 16:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-24 21:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-24 22:56 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-25 17:31 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 17:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 21:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 22:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 23:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 23:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-03 19:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-03 19:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-24 22:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-24 23:28 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-25 1:00 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-25 22:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-26 15:04 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 17:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 23:37 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-25 22:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-26 17:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-25 8:57 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-25 17:46 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 17:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 19:32 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-26 21:02 ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2022-09-26 22:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 23:47 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 23:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 1:49 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 3:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 13:05 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 14:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 14:22 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 14:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 15:25 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 15:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <CAEXW_YRpAjvmBPzRA-hRQpuaDuZUzfndLb3q+e3BUyWprg5wkQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-27 3:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 22:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 19:39 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-26 20:54 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 22:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 23:44 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 23:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 1:16 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 3:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 14:08 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-27 14:30 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 14:59 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-27 15:13 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-27 21:31 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-27 22:05 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 22:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-30 16:11 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-04 11:35 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-04 18:06 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 15:14 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-22 22:01 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] rcu: shrinker for lazy rcu Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-09-22 22:01 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] rcuscale: Add laziness and kfree tests Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-09-22 22:01 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] percpu-refcount: Use call_rcu_flush() for atomic switch Joel Fernandes (Google)
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