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From: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: "Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Tim Chen" <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
	Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>,
	Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] sched/fair: Choose the CPU where short task is running during wake up
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 01:26:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YzcmwQCedKPLUsfi@chenyu5-mobl1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c626e8d-4133-00ba-a765-bafe08034517@amd.com>

Hi Prateek,
On 2022-09-29 at 22:28:38 +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Gautham and Chenyu,
> 
> On 9/26/2022 8:09 PM, Gautham R. Shenoy wrote:
> > Hello Prateek,
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 11:20:16AM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:[
> > 
> > [..snip..]
> > 
> >>> @@ -6050,7 +6063,8 @@ wake_affine_idle(int this_cpu, int prev_cpu, int sync)
> >>>  	if (available_idle_cpu(this_cpu) && cpus_share_cache(this_cpu, prev_cpu))
> >>>  		return available_idle_cpu(prev_cpu) ? prev_cpu : this_cpu;
> >>>  
> >>> -	if (sync && cpu_rq(this_cpu)->nr_running == 1)
> >>> +	if ((sync && cpu_rq(this_cpu)->nr_running == 1) ||
> >>> +	    is_short_task(cpu_curr(this_cpu)))
> >>
> >> This change seems to optimize for affine wakeup which benefits
> >> tasks with producer-consumer pattern but is not ideal for Stream.
> >> Currently the logic ends will do an affine wakeup even if sync
> >> flag is not set:
> >>
> >>           stream-4135    [029] d..2.   353.580953: sched_waking: comm=stream pid=4129 prio=120 target_cpu=082
> >>           stream-4135    [029] d..2.   353.580957: select_task_rq_fair: wake_affine_idle: Select this_cpu: sync(0) rq->nr_running(1) is_short_task(1)
> >>           stream-4135    [029] d..2.   353.580960: sched_migrate_task: comm=stream pid=4129 prio=120 orig_cpu=82 dest_cpu=30
> >>           <idle>-0       [030] dNh2.   353.580993: sched_wakeup: comm=stream pid=4129 prio=120 target_cpu=030
> >>
> >> I believe a consideration should be made for the sync flag when
> >> going for an affine wakeup. Also the check for short running could
> >> be at the end after checking if prev_cpu is an available_idle_cpu.
> > 
> > We need to check if moving the is_short_task() to a later point after
> > checking the availability of the previous CPU solve the problem for
> > the workloads which showed regressions on AMD EPYC systems.
> 
> I've done some testing with moving the condition check for short
> running task to the end of wake_affine_idle and checking if the
> length of run queue is 1 similar to what Tim suggested in the thread
> but doing it upfront in wake_affine_idle.
Thanks for the investigation. After a second thought, for will-it-scale
context_switch test case, all the tasks have SYNC flag, so I wonder if
putting the check to the end of wake_affine_idle() would make any
difference for will-it-scale test. Because will-it-scale might have
already returned this_cpu via 'if (sync && cpu_rq(this_cpu)->nr_running == 1)'
I'll do some test tomorrow on this.
> There are a few variations I've tested:
> 
> v1: move the check for short running task on current CPU to end of wake_affine_idle
> 
> v2: move the check for short running task on current CPU to end of wake_affine_idle
>     + remove entire hunk in select_idle_cpu
> 
> v3: move the check for short running task on current CPU to end of wake_affine_idle
>     + check if run queue of current CPU only has 1 task
> 
> v4: move the check for short running task on current CPU to end of wake_affine_idle
>     + check if run queue of current CPU only has 1 task
>     + remove entire hunk in select_idle_cpu
> 
> Adding diff for v3 below:
> --
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 0ad8e7183bf2..dad9bfb0248d 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -6074,13 +6074,15 @@ wake_affine_idle(int this_cpu, int prev_cpu, int sync)
>  	if (available_idle_cpu(this_cpu) && cpus_share_cache(this_cpu, prev_cpu))
>  		return available_idle_cpu(prev_cpu) ? prev_cpu : this_cpu;
>  
> -	if ((sync && cpu_rq(this_cpu)->nr_running == 1) ||
> -	    is_short_task(cpu_curr(this_cpu)))
> +	if (sync && cpu_rq(this_cpu)->nr_running == 1)
>  		return this_cpu;
>  
>  	if (available_idle_cpu(prev_cpu))
>  		return prev_cpu;
>  
> +	if (cpu_rq(this_cpu)->nr_running == 1 && is_short_task(cpu_curr(this_cpu)))
> +		return this_cpu;
> +
I'm also thinking of adding this check in SIS and also the ttwu_pending flag
check in SIS.
>  	return nr_cpumask_bits;
>  }
>  
> --
>
[cut] 
> 
> We still see a pileup with v1 and v2 but not with v3 and v4 suggesting
> that the second hunk is not the reason for the pileup but rather
> choosing the current CPU in wake_affine_idle on the basis that the
> current running task is the short running task. To prevent a pileup, we
> must only choose the current rq if the short running task is the only
> task running there.
>
OK, I see. 

[cut]
> 
> A point to note is Stream is more sensitive initially when tasks have not
> run for long enough where, if a kworker or another short running task
> is running on the previous CPU during wakeup, the logic will favor an
> affine wakeup as initially as scheduler might not realize Stream is a
> long running task.
Maybe we can add restriction that only after the task has run for a while
we start the short_task() check?
> 
> Let me know if you would like me to gather more data on the test system
> for the modified kernels discussed above.
While waiting for Vincent's feedback, I'll refine the patch per your experiment
and modify the code in SIS per Tim's suggestion.

thanks,
Chenyu 
> --
> Thanks and Regards,
> Prateek

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-30 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-15 16:54 [RFC PATCH] sched/fair: Choose the CPU where short task is running during wake up Chen Yu
2022-09-15 17:10 ` Tim Chen
2022-09-16 10:49   ` Chen Yu
2022-09-16 11:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-17 13:55   ` Chen Yu
2022-09-16 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-17 14:15   ` Chen Yu
2022-09-26  5:50 ` K Prateek Nayak
2022-09-26 14:39   ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2022-09-29 16:58     ` K Prateek Nayak
2022-09-30 17:26       ` Chen Yu [this message]
2022-09-29  5:25   ` Chen Yu
2022-09-29  6:59     ` Honglei Wang
2022-09-29 17:34       ` K Prateek Nayak
2022-09-30  0:58         ` Honglei Wang
2022-09-30 16:03       ` Chen Yu
2022-09-29 17:19     ` K Prateek Nayak
2022-09-29  8:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2022-09-30 16:53   ` Chen Yu
2022-10-03 12:42     ` Vincent Guittot

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