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From: Youngmin Nam <youngmin.nam@samsung.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com,
	hajun.sung@samsung.com, d7271.choe@samsung.com,
	joonki.min@samsung.com, Youngmin Nam <youngmin.nam@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [GICv3 ITS]S2IDLE framework does not invoke syscore_ops in GICv3 ITS driver
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 12:22:19 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z+TEa8CVAYnbD/Tu@perf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8634f0mall.wl-maz@kernel.org>

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On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 08:59:02AM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 03:09:37 +0000,
> Youngmin Nam <youngmin.nam@samsung.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi.
> > 
> > On our SoC, we are using S2IDLE instead of S2R as a system suspend mode.
> > However, when I try to enable ARM GICv3 ITS driver (drivers/irqchip/irq-gic-v3-its.c),
> > I noticed that there is no proper way to invoke suspend/resume callback,
> > because it only uses syscore_ops, which is not called in an s2idle scenario.
> 
> This is *by design*.
> 
> > Please refer to the codes below.
> > 
> > <drivers/irqchip/irq-gic-v3-its.c>
> > 5028 static struct syscore_ops its_syscore_ops = {
> > 5029         .suspend = its_save_disable,
> > 5030         .resume = its_restore_enable,
> > 5031 };
> > ...
> > 5803         register_syscore_ops(&its_syscore_ops);
> > 
> > <kernel/power/suspend.c>
> > 444         if (state == PM_SUSPEND_TO_IDLE) {
> > 445                 s2idle_loop();
> > 446                 goto Platform_wake;
> > 447         }
> > 448
> > 449         error = pm_sleep_disable_secondary_cpus();
> > 450         if (error || suspend_test(TEST_CPUS)) {
> > 451                 log_suspend_abort_reason("Disabling non-boot cpus failed");
> > 452                 goto Enable_cpus;
> > 453         }
> > 454
> > 455         arch_suspend_disable_irqs();
> > 456         BUG_ON(!irqs_disabled());
> > 457
> > 458         system_state = SYSTEM_SUSPEND;
> > 459
> > 460         error = syscore_suspend();
> > 
> > How should we handle this situation ?
> 
> By implementing anything related to GIC power-management in your EL3
> firmware. Only your firmware knows whether you are going into a state
> where the GIC (and the ITS) is going to lose its state (because power
> is going to be removed) or if the sleep period is short enough that
> you can come back from idle without loss of context.
> 
> Furthermore, there is a lot of things that non-secure cannot do when
> it comes to GIC power management (most the controls are secure only),
> so it is pretty clear that the kernel is the wrong place for this.
> 
> I'd suggest you look at what TF-A provides, because this is not
> exactly a new problem (it has been solved several years ago).
> 
> 	M.
> 
> -- 
> Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
> 

Hi Marc,

First of all, I’d like to distinguish between the GICv3 driver (irq-gic-v3.c)
and the ITS driver (irq-gic-v3-its.c).

I now understand why the GICv3 driver doesn’t implement suspend and resume functions.
However, unlike the GICv3 driver, the ITS driver currently provides
suspend and resume functions via syscore_ops in the kernel.
And AFAIK, LPIs are always treated as non-secure. (Please correct me If I'm wrong).

The problem is that syscore_ops is not invoked during the S2IDLE scenario,
so we cannot rely on it in that context.
We would like to use these suspend/resume functions during S2IDLE as well.

Thanks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-27  3:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20250326030527epcas2p33aa30e62cc8a00c9e151c35bee71dac5@epcas2p3.samsung.com>
2025-03-26  3:09 ` [GICv3 ITS]S2IDLE framework does not invoke syscore_ops in GICv3 ITS driver Youngmin Nam
2025-03-26  8:59   ` Marc Zyngier
2025-03-27  3:22     ` Youngmin Nam [this message]
2025-03-27  8:25       ` Marc Zyngier
2025-03-28  2:10         ` Youngmin Nam
2025-04-01 12:45         ` Ulf Hansson
2025-04-01 13:11           ` Marc Zyngier
2025-04-02 10:57             ` Ulf Hansson
2025-04-03  7:16               ` Marc Zyngier
2025-04-02 11:56       ` Sudeep Holla
2025-04-03  1:30         ` Youngmin Nam
2025-04-03  9:18           ` Sudeep Holla
2025-04-04  4:13             ` Donghyeok Choe
2025-04-07  9:17               ` Sudeep Holla
2025-04-07 22:51                 ` Donghyeok Choe
2025-04-08  6:51                   ` Marc Zyngier
     [not found]                     ` <CGME20250408223026epcas2p220582f5c0401b442921cda2571c595ec@epcas2p2.samsung.com>
2025-04-08 22:28                       ` Donghyeok Choe
2025-04-08 10:46                   ` Sudeep Holla
     [not found]                     ` <CGME20250408221326epcas2p24b455e5a9f65dff52807a3a0010eff9a@epcas2p2.samsung.com>
2025-04-08 22:11                       ` Donghyeok Choe

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