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From: Carlos Llamas <cmllamas@google.com>
To: "Tiffany Y. Yang" <ynaffit@google.com>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	"Todd Kjos" <tkjos@android.com>,
	"Martijn Coenen" <maco@android.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] binder: use buffer offsets in debug logs
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:45:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-MV_KoW2w9F0HZw@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dbx8v7ryym9o.fsf@ynaffit-start.c.googlers.com>

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 12:41:39AM +0000, Tiffany Y. Yang wrote:
> Carlos Llamas <cmllamas@google.com> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 06:07:18PM +0000, Tiffany Y. Yang wrote:
> >> Identify buffer addresses using vma offsets instead of full user
> >> addresses in debug logs.
> >> 
> >> Signed-off-by: Tiffany Y. Yang <ynaffit@google.com>
> >> ---
> >>  drivers/android/binder.c | 31 ++++++++++++++++---------------
> >>  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> >> 
> >> diff --git a/drivers/android/binder.c b/drivers/android/binder.c
> >> index d1aa6d24450a..994ae205aa07 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/android/binder.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/android/binder.c
> >> @@ -3261,20 +3261,20 @@ static void binder_transaction(struct binder_proc *proc,
> >>  
> >>  	if (reply)
> >>  		binder_debug(BINDER_DEBUG_TRANSACTION,
> >> -			     "%d:%d BC_REPLY %d -> %d:%d, data %016llx-%016llx size %lld-%lld-%lld\n",
> >> +			     "%d:%d BC_REPLY %d -> %d:%d, buffer offset %lx-%lx size %lld-%lld-%lld\n",
> >>  			     proc->pid, thread->pid, t->debug_id,
> >>  			     target_proc->pid, target_thread->pid,
> >> -			     (u64)tr->data.ptr.buffer,
> >> -			     (u64)tr->data.ptr.offsets,
> >> +			     (unsigned long)tr->data.ptr.buffer - proc->alloc.buffer,
> >> +			     (unsigned long)tr->data.ptr.offsets - proc->alloc.buffer,
> >
> > These could be pointers to anywhere in user memory, not necessarily the
> > alloc->buffer. So there will be cases where this substraction doesn't
> > make sense. However, you are correct that we shouldn't log these addrs
> > so maybe just don't? wdyt?
> >
> 
> Ah, in that case I think it makes sense to remove them here. What
> do you think about printing the full buffer and offsets values in cases
> where we would print a binder_user_error or binder_transaction_error
> instead. Ideally, I would try to limit this to cases when the data or
> offsets ptr is invalid / copy would fail. Ostensibly this wouldn't
> reveal dangerous information about the user address space because the
> print statements would only happen when the data wasn't where it was
> supposed to be and it would help with debugging, but I'm not sure if
> this line of thought makes sense...

My 2 cents...

I'm sure there will be a _few_ exceptions in which having the pointers
from binder_transaction_data logged would aid debugging. However, this
won't be info that most users care about. In practice, logging an error
with "invalid buffer/offsets pointer" message is enough.

There are _other_ pointers that users do care about when debugging, such
as binder_ptr_cookie but not these. So I think is better if we don't log
them at all, as calculating an "offset" is not possible either.

--
Carlos Llamas

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-25 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-24 18:07 [PATCH v2] binder: use buffer offsets in debug logs Tiffany Y. Yang
2025-03-24 18:23 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-03-24 18:48 ` Carlos Llamas
2025-03-25  0:41   ` Tiffany Y. Yang
2025-03-25 20:45     ` Carlos Llamas [this message]
2025-03-27 21:11       ` Tiffany Y. Yang

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