From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip 1/2] x86/hweight: Fix false output register dependency of POPCNT insn
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 22:50:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-MlMardXbnknUzS@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250325164854.199420-1-ubizjak@gmail.com>
* Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sandy/Ivy Bridge and later Intel processors, the POPCNT instruction
> appears to have a false dependency on the destination register. Even
> though the instruction only writes to it, the instruction will wait
> until destination is ready before executing. This false dependency
> was fixed for Cannon Lake (and later) processors.
>
> Fix false dependency by clearing the destination register first.
>
> The x86_64 defconfig object size increases by 779 bytes:
>
> text data bss dec hex filename
> 27341418 4643015 814852 32799285 1f47a35 vmlinux-old.o
> 27342197 4643015 814852 32800064 1f47d40 vmlinux-new.o
I don't think adding an instruction for an old-microarchitecture
weakness that has been fixed in new hardware already is worth bloating
the kernel.
Cannon Lake was released in 2018, 7 years ago.
It will be 1-2 years until such a change percolates to Linux users, and
by that time the microarchitecture with the fix (Cannon Lake) will be a
decade old, and a majority of Intel CPU users will be using it.
So I don't think this particular change is worth it, unless the false
dependency can be quantified to have a huge impact on pre-Cannon-Lake
CPUs - which I don't think it is.
Thanks,
Ingo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-25 21:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-25 16:48 [PATCH -tip 1/2] x86/hweight: Fix false output register dependency of POPCNT insn Uros Bizjak
2025-03-25 16:48 ` [PATCH -tip 2/2] x86/hweight: Use POPCNT when available with X86_NATIVE_CPU option Uros Bizjak
2025-03-25 17:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-30 15:15 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-30 17:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-30 18:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-30 19:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-30 19:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-30 19:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-25 21:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-29 9:19 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-29 11:00 ` David Laight
2025-03-30 7:49 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-30 18:02 ` David Laight
2025-03-29 23:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-30 6:54 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-30 9:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-30 16:07 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-30 18:15 ` David Laight
2025-03-30 22:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-30 18:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-25 17:09 ` [PATCH -tip 1/2] x86/hweight: Fix false output register dependency of POPCNT insn Borislav Petkov
2025-03-25 17:17 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-25 17:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-25 21:50 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
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