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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
Cc: "Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Mallick, Asit K" <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	"Scarlata, Vincent R" <vincent.r.scarlata@intel.com>,
	"Cai, Chong" <chongc@google.com>,
	"Aktas, Erdem" <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	"Annapurve, Vishal" <vannapurve@google.com>,
	"dionnaglaze@google.com" <dionnaglaze@google.com>,
	"bondarn@google.com" <bondarn@google.com>,
	"Raynor, Scott" <scott.raynor@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] x86/sgx: Change counter sgx_nr_free_pages -> sgx_nr_used_pages
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 23:21:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-XBaJ3egJDetauP@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM8PR11MB575001F32AD2F55043EAA670E7A12@DM8PR11MB5750.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 03:31:31PM +0000, Reshetova, Elena wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 12:19:37PM +0000, Reshetova, Elena wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 02:34:41PM +0200, Elena Reshetova wrote:
> > > > > sgx_nr_free_pages is an atomic that is used to keep track of
> > > > > free EPC pages and detect whenever page reclaiming should start.
> > > > > Since successful execution of ENCLS[EUPDATESVN] requires empty
> > > > > EPC and a fast way of checking for this, change this variable
> > > > > around to indicate number of used pages instead. The subsequent
> > > > > patch that introduces ENCLS[EUPDATESVN] will take use of this change.
> > > >
> > > > s/subsequent patch//
> > >
> > > Ok
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You should rather express how EUPDATESVN trigger will depend on the
> > > > state of sgx_nr_used_pages and sgx_nr_free_pages.
> > >
> > > How about this explanation:
> > >
> > > "By counting the # of used pages instead of #of free pages, it allows the
> > > EPC page allocation path execute without a need to take the lock in all
> > > but a single case when the first page is being allocated in EPC. This is
> > > achieved via a fast check in atomic_long_inc_not_zero."
> > 
> > Yep, whole a lot more sense.
> > 
> > >
> > > Also, if you think that it is hard to interpret the patch 2/4 without 4/4
> > > I can also squeeze them together and then it becomes right away clear
> > > why the change was done.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No functional changes intended.
> > > >
> > > > Not really understanding how I should interpret this sentence.
> > >
> > > Just as usual: this patch itself doesn’t bring any functional changes
> > > to the way as current SGX code works. I only needed this change to
> > > implement patch 4/4 in more lockless way.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The commit message does not mention sgx_nr_used_pages, and neiher it
> > > > makes a case why implementing the feature based on sgx_nr_free_pages
> > is
> > > > not possible.
> > >
> > > It is possible to implement it, in fact I did exactly this in the beginning
> > instead,
> > > but as mentioned previously this would have resulted in taking a lock for
> > each
> > > case the page is being allocated.
> > 
> > Have you benchmarked this (memory barrier vs putting the whole thing
> > inside spinlock)?
> > 
> > I have doubts that this would even show in margins given how much e.g.,
> > ELDU takes.
> 
> No, I haven’t benchmarked this. The reason to choose this approach
> (vs. the other one I showed in email now) was purely logical - less
> locks and better code.

You need to have hard data to to turn things around like this.
Otherwise, let's not do this.

EPC allocation is always combined with heave-weight opcode so
this really does not serve any purpose.

> 
> Best Regards,
> Elena.

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-27 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-21 12:34 [PATCH 0/4] Enable automatic SVN updates for SGX enclaves Elena Reshetova
2025-03-21 12:34 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86/sgx: Add total number of EPC pages Elena Reshetova
2025-03-22 21:58   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-24 12:12     ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-26 19:43       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-27 15:29         ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-27 21:28           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-28  8:07             ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-28  8:42               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-28  9:11                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-28  9:35                 ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-21 12:34 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86/sgx: Change counter sgx_nr_free_pages -> sgx_nr_used_pages Elena Reshetova
2025-03-22 22:10   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-24 12:19     ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-26 20:07       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-27 15:31         ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-27 21:21           ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2025-03-21 12:34 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86/sgx: Define error codes for ENCLS[EUPDATESVN] Elena Reshetova
2025-03-22 21:47   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-24 12:21     ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-26 20:09       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-27 15:38         ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-21 12:34 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86/sgx: Implement ENCLS[EUPDATESVN] and opportunistically call it during first EPC page alloc Elena Reshetova
2025-03-22 22:19   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-24 12:26     ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-26 20:11       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-27 15:42         ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-27 21:19           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-28  8:27             ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-28  8:44               ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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