From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
pbonzini@redhat.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
kai.huang@intel.com, reinette.chatre@intel.com,
xiaoyao.li@intel.com, tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com,
dmatlack@google.com, isaku.yamahata@intel.com,
nik.borisov@suse.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
x86@kernel.org, yan.y.zhao@intel.com, chao.gao@intel.com,
weijiang.yang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 07:19:27 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0SVf8bqGej_-7Sj@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86d71f0c-6859-477a-88a2-416e46847f2f@linux.intel.com>
On Mon, Nov 25, 2024, Binbin Wu wrote:
> On 11/22/2024 4:14 AM, Adrian Hunter wrote:
> [...]
> > - tdx_vcpu_enter_exit() calls guest_state_enter_irqoff()
> > and guest_state_exit_irqoff() which comments say should be
> > called from non-instrumentable code but noinst was removed
> > at Sean's suggestion:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/Zg8tJspL9uBmMZFO@google.com/
> > noinstr is also needed to retain NMI-blocking by avoiding
> > instrumented code that leads to an IRET which unblocks NMIs.
> > A later patch set will deal with NMI VM-exits.
> >
> In https://lore.kernel.org/all/Zg8tJspL9uBmMZFO@google.com, Sean mentioned:
> "The reason the VM-Enter flows for VMX and SVM need to be noinstr is they do things
> like load the guest's CR2, and handle NMI VM-Exits with NMIs blocks. None of
> that applies to TDX. Either that, or there are some massive bugs lurking due to
> missing code."
>
> I don't understand why handle NMI VM-Exits with NMIs blocks doesn't apply to
> TDX. IIUIC, similar to VMX, TDX also needs to handle the NMI VM-exit in the
> noinstr section to avoid the unblock of NMIs due to instrumentation-induced
> fault.
With TDX, SEAMCALL is mechnically a VM-Exit. KVM is the "guest" running in VMX
root mode, and the TDX-Module is the "host", running in SEAM root mode.
And for TDH.VP.ENTER, if a hardware NMI arrives with the TDX guest is active,
the initial NMI VM-Exit, which consumes the NMI and blocks further NMIs, goes
from SEAM non-root to SEAM root. The SEAMRET from SEAM root to VMX root (KVM)
is effectively a VM-Enter, and does NOT block NMIs in VMX root (at least, AFAIK).
So trying to handle the NMI "exit" in a noinstr section is pointless because NMIs
are never blocked.
TDX is also different because KVM isn't responsible for context switching guest
state. Specifically, CR2 is managed by the TDX Module, and so there is no window
where KVM runs with guest CR2, and thus there is no risk of clobbering guest CR2
with a host value, e.g. due to take a #PF due instrumentation triggering something.
All that said, I did forget that code that runs between guest_state_enter_irqoff()
and guest_state_exit_irqoff() can't be instrumeneted. And at least as of patch 2
in this series, the simplest way to make that happen is to tag tdx_vcpu_enter_exit()
as noinstr. Just please make sure nothing else is added in the noinstr section
unless it absolutely needs to be there.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-25 15:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-21 20:14 [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper to enter/exit TDX guest Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 11:10 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 16:33 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-25 13:40 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-28 11:13 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 15:58 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-11 18:43 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 15:45 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 16:16 ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-13 16:30 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 16:44 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-22 16:26 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-22 17:29 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-25 13:43 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: TDX: Implement TDX vcpu enter/exit path Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 5:23 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-11-22 5:56 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-22 14:33 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-28 5:56 ` Yan Zhao
2024-11-28 6:26 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: TDX: vcpu_run: save/restore host state(host kernel gs) Adrian Hunter
2024-11-25 14:12 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-11-26 16:15 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 5:49 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-25 11:10 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-26 2:20 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-28 6:50 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-02 2:52 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-02 6:36 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-17 16:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-20 15:22 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-20 16:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-20 21:24 ` PKEY syscall number for selftest? (was: [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD) Sean Christopherson
2025-01-27 17:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-03 18:16 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD Adrian Hunter
2025-01-09 19:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-10 14:50 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-10 17:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-14 20:04 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-15 2:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-13 19:28 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-13 23:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-25 11:34 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: x86: Allow to update cached values in kvm_user_return_msrs w/o wrmsr Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: TDX: restore user ret MSRs Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: TDX: Add TSX_CTRL msr into uret_msrs list Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 3:27 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-27 14:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-29 11:39 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-02 19:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-02 19:24 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-03 0:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-03 17:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-03 19:17 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 1:25 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 6:18 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 6:37 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 6:57 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 11:13 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 11:55 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 15:33 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-04 23:51 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-05 17:31 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-06 3:37 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-06 14:40 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-09 2:46 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-09 7:08 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-10 2:45 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-04 23:40 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-25 1:25 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit Binbin Wu
2024-11-25 15:19 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-11-25 19:50 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-25 22:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-26 1:43 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 1:44 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-26 3:52 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 5:29 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-26 5:37 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 21:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-10 18:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
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