Re: [RFC PATCH 0/1] Large folios in block buffered IO path

Christian Brauner
2024-11-27T12:14:01Z

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 01:02:35PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 27-11-24 07:19:59, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 7:13 AM Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 6:48 AM Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Recently we discussed the scalability issues while running large
> > > > instances of FIO with buffered IO option on NVME block devices here:
> > > >
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/d2841226-e27b-4d3d-a578-63587a3aa4f3@amd.com/
> > > >
> > > > One of the suggestions Chris Mason gave (during private discussions) was
> > > > to enable large folios in block buffered IO path as that could
> > > > improve the scalability problems and improve the lock contention
> > > > scenarios.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have no basis to comment on the idea.
> > >
> > > However, it is pretty apparent whatever the situation it is being
> > > heavily disfigured by lock contention in blkdev_llseek:
> > >
> > > > perf-lock contention output
> > > > ---------------------------
> > > > The lock contention data doesn't look all that conclusive but for 30% rwmixwrite
> > > > mix it looks like this:
> > > >
> > > > perf-lock contention default
> > > > contended total wait max wait avg wait type caller
> > > >
> > > > 1337359017 64.69 h 769.04 us 174.14 us spinlock rwsem_wake.isra.0+0x42
> > > > 0xffffffff903f60a3 native_queued_spin_lock_slowpath+0x1f3
> > > > 0xffffffff903f537c _raw_spin_lock_irqsave+0x5c
> > > > 0xffffffff8f39e7d2 rwsem_wake.isra.0+0x42
> > > > 0xffffffff8f39e88f up_write+0x4f
> > > > 0xffffffff8f9d598e blkdev_llseek+0x4e
> > > > 0xffffffff8f703322 ksys_lseek+0x72
> > > > 0xffffffff8f7033a8 __x64_sys_lseek+0x18
> > > > 0xffffffff8f20b983 x64_sys_call+0x1fb3
> > > > 2665573 64.38 h 1.98 s 86.95 ms rwsem:W blkdev_llseek+0x31
> > > > 0xffffffff903f15bc rwsem_down_write_slowpath+0x36c
> > > > 0xffffffff903f18fb down_write+0x5b
> > > > 0xffffffff8f9d5971 blkdev_llseek+0x31
> > > > 0xffffffff8f703322 ksys_lseek+0x72
> > > > 0xffffffff8f7033a8 __x64_sys_lseek+0x18
> > > > 0xffffffff8f20b983 x64_sys_call+0x1fb3
> > > > 0xffffffff903dce5e do_syscall_64+0x7e
> > > > 0xffffffff9040012b entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x76
> > >
> > > Admittedly I'm not familiar with this code, but at a quick glance the
> > > lock can be just straight up removed here?
> > >
> > > 534 static loff_t blkdev_llseek(struct file *file, loff_t offset, int whence)
> > > 535 {
> > > 536 │ struct inode *bd_inode = bdev_file_inode(file);
> > > 537 │ loff_t retval;
> > > 538 │
> > > 539 │ inode_lock(bd_inode);
> > > 540 │ retval = fixed_size_llseek(file, offset, whence,
> > > i_size_read(bd_inode));
> > > 541 │ inode_unlock(bd_inode);
> > > 542 │ return retval;
> > > 543 }
> > >
> > > At best it stabilizes the size for the duration of the call. Sounds
> > > like it helps nothing since if the size can change, the file offset
> > > will still be altered as if there was no locking?
> > >
> > > Suppose this cannot be avoided to grab the size for whatever reason.
> > >
> > > While the above fio invocation did not work for me, I ran some crapper
> > > which I had in my shell history and according to strace:
> > > [pid 271829] lseek(7, 0, SEEK_SET) = 0
> > > [pid 271829] lseek(7, 0, SEEK_SET) = 0
> > > [pid 271830] lseek(7, 0, SEEK_SET) = 0
> > >
> > > ... the lseeks just rewind to the beginning, *definitely* not needing
> > > to know the size. One would have to check but this is most likely the
> > > case in your test as well.
> > >
> > > And for that there is 0 need to grab the size, and consequently the inode lock.
> >
> > That is to say bare minimum this needs to be benchmarked before/after
> > with the lock removed from the picture, like so:
>
> Yeah, I've noticed this in the locking profiles as well and I agree
> bd_inode locking seems unnecessary here. Even some filesystems (e.g. ext4)
> get away without using inode lock in their llseek handler...

nod. This should be removed.