From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Hou Wenlong <houwenlong.hwl@antgroup.com>,
Kechen Lu <kechenl@nvidia.com>,
Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>,
Robert Hoo <robert.hoo.linux@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 22/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro to precisely handle aliased 0x1.EDX CPUID features
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 06:38:41 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0cu8aLX7VkwmtSk@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbcb80ee5be13d78390ff6f4a1a3c58fc849e311.camel@redhat.com>
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Wed, 2024-09-11 at 08:37 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2024, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2024-08-05 at 15:00 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > At that point, I'm ok with defining each alias, though I honestly still don't
> > > > understand the motivation for defining single-use macros.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The idea is that nobody will need to look at these macros
> > > (e.g__X86_FEATURE_8000_0001_ALIAS() and its usages), because it's clear what
> > > they do, they just define few extra CPUID features that nobody really cares
> > > about.
> > >
> > > ALIASED_F() on the other hand is yet another _F macro() and we will need,
> > > once again and again to figure out why it is there, what it does, etc.
> >
> > That seems easily solved by naming the macro ALIASED_8000_0001_F(). I don't see
> > how that's any less clear than __X86_FEATURE_8000_0001_ALIAS(), and as above,
> > there are several advantages to defining the alias in the context of the leaf
> > builder.
> >
>
> Hi!
>
> I am stating my point again: Treating 8000_0001 leaf aliases as regular CPUID
> features means that we don't need common code to deal with this, and thus
> when someone reads the common code (and this is the thing I care about the
> most) that someone won't need to dig up the info about what these aliases
> are.
Ah, this is where we disagree, I think. I feel quite strongly that oddities such
as aliased/duplicate CPUID feature bits need to be made as visible as possible,
and well documented. Hiding architectural quirks might save some readers a few
seconds of their time, but it can also confuse others, and more importantly, makes
it more difficult for new readers/developers to learn about the quirks.
This code _looks_ wrong, as there's no indication that CPUID_8000_0001_EDX is
unique. I too wasn't aware of the aliases until this series, and I was very
confused by KVM's code. The only clue that I was given was the "Don't duplicate
feature flags which are redundant with Intel!" comment in cpufeatures.h; I still
ended up digging through the APM to understand what was going on.
kvm_cpu_cap_mask(CPUID_1_EDX,
F(FPU) | F(VME) | F(DE) | F(PSE) |
F(TSC) | F(MSR) | F(PAE) | F(MCE) |
F(CX8) | F(APIC) | 0 /* Reserved */ | F(SEP) |
F(MTRR) | F(PGE) | F(MCA) | F(CMOV) |
F(PAT) | F(PSE36) | 0 /* PSN */ | F(CLFLUSH) |
0 /* Reserved, DS, ACPI */ | F(MMX) |
F(FXSR) | F(XMM) | F(XMM2) | F(SELFSNOOP) |
0 /* HTT, TM, Reserved, PBE */
);
kvm_cpu_cap_mask(CPUID_8000_0001_EDX,
F(FPU) | F(VME) | F(DE) | F(PSE) |
F(TSC) | F(MSR) | F(PAE) | F(MCE) |
F(CX8) | F(APIC) | 0 /* Reserved */ | F(SYSCALL) |
F(MTRR) | F(PGE) | F(MCA) | F(CMOV) |
F(PAT) | F(PSE36) | 0 /* Reserved */ |
F(NX) | 0 /* Reserved */ | F(MMXEXT) | F(MMX) |
F(FXSR) | F(FXSR_OPT) | f_gbpages | F(RDTSCP) |
0 /* Reserved */ | f_lm | F(3DNOWEXT) | F(3DNOW)
);
Versus this code, which hopefully elicits a "huh!?" and prompts curious readers
to go look at the definition of ALIASED_1_EDX_F() to understand why KVM is being
weird. And if readers can't figure things out purely from ALIASED_1_EDX_F()'s
comment, then that's effectively a KVM documentation issue and should be fixed.
In other words, I want to make things like this stick out so that more developers
are aware of such quirks, i.e. to to minimize the probability of such knowledge
being lost. I don't want the next generation of KVM developers to have to
re-discover things that can be solved by a moderately verbose comment.
kvm_cpu_cap_init(CPUID_1_EDX,
F(FPU),
F(VME),
F(DE),
F(PSE),
F(TSC),
F(MSR),
F(PAE),
F(MCE),
F(CX8),
F(APIC),
...
);
kvm_cpu_cap_init(CPUID_8000_0001_EDX,
ALIASED_1_EDX_F(FPU),
ALIASED_1_EDX_F(VME),
ALIASED_1_EDX_F(DE),
ALIASED_1_EDX_F(PSE),
ALIASED_1_EDX_F(TSC),
ALIASED_1_EDX_F(MSR),
ALIASED_1_EDX_F(PAE),
ALIASED_1_EDX_F(MCE),
ALIASED_1_EDX_F(CX8),
ALIASED_1_EDX_F(APIC),
...
);
> I for example didn't knew about them because these aliases are basically a
> result of AMD redoing some things in the spec their way when they just
> released first 64-bit extensions. I didn't follow the x86 ISA closely back
> then (I only had 32 bit systems to play with).
>
> Best regards,
> Maxim Levitsky
>
>
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2024-05-17 17:38 [PATCH v2 00/49] KVM: x86: CPUID overhaul, fixes, and caching Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 01/49] KVM: x86: Do all post-set CPUID processing during vCPU creation Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 0:48 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 18:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:24 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 02/49] KVM: x86: Explicitly do runtime CPUID updates "after" initial setup Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 0:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:24 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 03/49] KVM: x86: Account for KVM-reserved CR4 bits when passing through CR4 on VMX Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 0:55 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:28 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 04/49] KVM: selftests: Update x86's set_sregs_test to match KVM's CPUID enforcement Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 0:55 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 05/49] KVM: selftests: Assert that the @cpuid passed to get_cpuid_entry() is non-NULL Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 0:58 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 19:33 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:28 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-11-21 18:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 06/49] KVM: selftests: Refresh vCPU CPUID cache in __vcpu_get_cpuid_entry() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 0:59 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 07/49] KVM: selftests: Verify KVM stuffs runtime CPUID OS bits on CR4 writes Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:02 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 19:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 08/49] KVM: x86: Move __kvm_is_valid_cr4() definition to x86.h Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:02 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 09/49] KVM: x86/pmu: Drop now-redundant refresh() during init() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:02 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 10/49] KVM: x86: Drop now-redundant MAXPHYADDR and GPA rsvd bits from vCPU creation Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:13 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 19:53 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:30 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 11/49] KVM: x86: Disallow KVM_CAP_X86_DISABLE_EXITS after " Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:17 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 19:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:31 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-25 18:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-12 7:42 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 12/49] KVM: x86: Reject disabling of MWAIT/HLT interception when not allowed Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22 5:09 ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-28 18:56 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:17 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-12 7:51 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-07-12 13:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 13/49] KVM: selftests: Fix a bad TEST_REQUIRE() in x86's KVM PV test Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:17 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 14/49] KVM: selftests: Update x86's KVM PV test to match KVM's disabling exits behavior Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:17 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 15/49] KVM: x86: Zero out PV features cache when the CPUID leaf is not present Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:17 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 16/49] KVM: x86: Don't update PV features caches when enabling enforcement capability Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:17 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 17/49] KVM: x86: Do reverse CPUID sanity checks in __feature_leaf() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:17 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 18/49] KVM: x86: Account for max supported CPUID leaf when getting raw host CPUID Sean Christopherson
2024-06-19 6:17 ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-06-19 8:07 ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-07-05 1:17 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 19/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro to init CPUID features that ignore host kernel support Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:21 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 20:53 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:39 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 22:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:40 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 20/49] KVM: x86: Rename kvm_cpu_cap_mask() to kvm_cpu_cap_init() Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22 6:23 ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-28 18:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:24 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 21/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro to init CPUID features that are 64-bit only Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:24 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-17 13:31 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 22/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro to precisely handle aliased 0x1.EDX CPUID features Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:25 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 21:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:46 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-25 18:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-05 11:06 ` mlevitsk
2024-08-05 22:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10 20:37 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-09-11 15:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-22 3:17 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-11-27 14:38 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 23/49] KVM: x86: Handle kernel- and KVM-defined CPUID words in a single helper Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:28 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 21:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-17 14:00 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-07-24 17:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-25 19:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-05 11:07 ` mlevitsk
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 24/49] KVM: x86: #undef SPEC_CTRL_SSBD in cpuid.c to avoid macro collisions Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:30 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 21:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:54 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-26 23:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-05 11:11 ` mlevitsk
2024-08-05 21:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10 20:37 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 25/49] KVM: x86: Harden CPU capabilities processing against out-of-scope features Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:31 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 18:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:55 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 26/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro to init CPUID features that KVM emulates in software Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:59 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 22:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:58 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-27 0:06 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-05 11:16 ` mlevitsk
2024-08-05 19:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10 20:41 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-09-11 16:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-22 3:28 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 27/49] KVM: x86: Swap incoming guest CPUID into vCPU before massaging in KVM_SET_CPUID2 Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:32 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 21:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 28/49] KVM: x86: Clear PV_UNHALT for !HLT-exiting only when userspace sets CPUID Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:32 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 29/49] KVM: x86: Remove unnecessary caching of KVM's PV CPUID base Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:59 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 30/49] KVM: x86: Always operate on kvm_vcpu data in cpuid_entry2_find() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 31/49] KVM: x86: Move kvm_find_cpuid_entry{,_index}() up near cpuid_entry2_find() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 32/49] KVM: x86: Remove all direct usage of cpuid_entry2_find() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 1:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 33/49] KVM: x86: Advertise TSC_DEADLINE_TIMER in KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22 9:11 ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-28 15:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:04 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 34/49] KVM: x86: Advertise HYPERVISOR " Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:04 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 35/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro to handle features that are fully VMM controlled Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:08 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 36/49] KVM: x86: Rename "governed features" helpers to use "guest_cpu_cap" Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22 14:23 ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 37/49] KVM: x86: Replace guts of "governed" features with comprehensive cpu_caps Sean Christopherson
2024-06-20 2:20 ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-07-05 2:10 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 18:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 38/49] KVM: x86: Initialize guest cpu_caps based on guest CPUID Sean Christopherson
2024-06-20 2:24 ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-07-05 2:13 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 39/49] KVM: x86: Extract code for generating per-entry emulated CPUID information Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:18 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 0:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 40/49] KVM: x86: Initialize guest cpu_caps based on KVM support Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:22 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 0:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:01 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-29 15:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-05 11:16 ` mlevitsk
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 41/49] KVM: x86: Avoid double CPUID lookup when updating MWAIT at runtime Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:22 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 42/49] KVM: x86: Drop unnecessary check that cpuid_entry2_find() returns right leaf Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:22 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 43/49] KVM: x86: Update OS{XSAVE,PKE} bits in guest CPUID irrespective of host support Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:22 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 44/49] KVM: x86: Update guest cpu_caps at runtime for dynamic CPUID-based features Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:26 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 0:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10 20:41 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-09-11 15:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-22 2:11 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 45/49] KVM: x86: Shuffle code to prepare for dropping guest_cpuid_has() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:26 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 46/49] KVM: x86: Replace (almost) all guest CPUID feature queries with cpu_caps Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:34 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:20 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:01 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 47/49] KVM: x86: Drop superfluous host XSAVE check when adjusting guest XSAVES caps Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:36 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:15 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:02 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 48/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro for features that are synthesized into boot_cpu_data Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05 2:43 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 21:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:04 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 49/49] *** DO NOT APPLY *** KVM: x86: Verify KVM initializes all consumed guest caps Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 00/49] KVM: x86: CPUID overhaul, fixes, and caching Paolo Bonzini
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