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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, paulmck@kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	bigeasy@linutronix.de, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	vschneid@redhat.com, efault@gmx.de, sshegde@linux.ibm.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] osnoise: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPTION=y
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 15:22:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0nOFDt_Y370pyew@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87seraeimb.fsf@oracle.com>

Le Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 09:03:56PM -0800, Ankur Arora a écrit :
> 
> Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > Le Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 12:17:57PM -0800, Ankur Arora a écrit :
> >> To reduce RCU noise for nohz_full configurations, osnoise depends
> >> on cond_resched() providing quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n
> >> configurations. And, for PREEMPT_RCU=y configurations does this
> >> by directly calling rcu_momentary_eqs().
> >>
> >> With PREEMPT_LAZY=y, however, we can have configurations with
> >> (PREEMPTION=y, PREEMPT_RCU=n), which means neither of the above
> >> can help.
> >>
> >> Handle that by fallback to the explicit quiescent states via
> >> rcu_momentary_eqs().
> >>
> >> Cc: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> >> Cc: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>
> >> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> >> Suggested-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> >> Acked-by: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>
> >> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
> >> ---
> >>  kernel/trace/trace_osnoise.c | 22 ++++++++++++----------
> >>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/kernel/trace/trace_osnoise.c b/kernel/trace/trace_osnoise.c
> >> index a50ed23bee77..15e9600d231d 100644
> >> --- a/kernel/trace/trace_osnoise.c
> >> +++ b/kernel/trace/trace_osnoise.c
> >> @@ -1538,18 +1538,20 @@ static int run_osnoise(void)
> >>  		/*
> >>  		 * In some cases, notably when running on a nohz_full CPU with
> >>  		 * a stopped tick PREEMPT_RCU has no way to account for QSs.
> >> -		 * This will eventually cause unwarranted noise as PREEMPT_RCU
> >> -		 * will force preemption as the means of ending the current
> >> -		 * grace period. We avoid this problem by calling
> >> -		 * rcu_momentary_eqs(), which performs a zero duration
> >> -		 * EQS allowing PREEMPT_RCU to end the current grace period.
> >> -		 * This call shouldn't be wrapped inside an RCU critical
> >> -		 * section.
> >> +		 * This will eventually cause unwarranted noise as RCU forces
> >> +		 * preemption as the means of ending the current grace period.
> >> +		 * We avoid this by calling rcu_momentary_eqs(), which performs
> >> +		 * a zero duration EQS allowing RCU to end the current grace
> >> +		 * period. This call shouldn't be wrapped inside an RCU
> >> +		 * critical section.
> >>  		 *
> >> -		 * Note that in non PREEMPT_RCU kernels QSs are handled through
> >> -		 * cond_resched()
> >> +		 * For non-PREEMPT_RCU kernels with cond_resched() (non-
> >> +		 * PREEMPT_LAZY configurations), QSs are handled through
> >> +		 * cond_resched(). For PREEMPT_LAZY kernels, we fallback to
> >> +		 * the zero duration QS via rcu_momentary_eqs().
> >>  		 */
> >> -		if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU)) {
> >> +		if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU) ||
> >> +		    (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU) && IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPTION))) {
> >>  			if (!disable_irq)
> >>  				local_irq_disable();
> >
> > How about making this unconditional so it works everywhere and doesn't
> > rely on cond_resched() Kconfig/preempt-dynamic mood?
> 
> I think it's a minor matter given that this isn't a hot path, but
> we don't really need it for the !PREEMPT_RCU configuration.

Well if you make it unconditional, cond_resched() / rcu_all_qs() won't do its
own rcu_momentary_qs(), because rcu_data.rcu_urgent_qs should
be false. So that essentially unify the behaviours for all configurations.

Thanks.

> 
> Still, given that both of those clauses imply CONFIG_PREEMPTION, we
> can just simplify this to (with an appropriately adjusted comment):
> 
> --- a/kernel/trace/trace_osnoise.c
> +++ b/kernel/trace/trace_osnoise.c
> @@ -1543,7 +1543,7 @@ static int run_osnoise(void)
>                  * Note that in non PREEMPT_RCU kernels QSs are handled through
>                  * cond_resched()
>                  */
> -               if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU)) {
> +               if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPTION)) {
>                         if (!disable_irq)
>                                 local_irq_disable();
> 
> --
> ankur

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-29 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-06 20:17 [PATCH v2 0/6] RCU changes for PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] rcu: fix header guard for rcu_all_qs() Ankur Arora
2024-11-13 14:50   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-14  7:06   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15  4:55     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] rcu: rename PREEMPT_AUTO to PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-11-13 14:59   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-13 23:51     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-14  7:07   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] rcu: limit PREEMPT_RCU configurations Ankur Arora
2024-11-13 15:31   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-14  0:23     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-14  8:25       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-14 11:36         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-25 21:40     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-26 14:49       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-27  5:35         ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-27  6:19           ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-28 12:33             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-29  4:39               ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-29 12:49                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] rcu: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPT_COUNT=y Ankur Arora
2024-11-14  8:50   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15  4:58     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-28 13:36   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] osnoise: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPTION=y Ankur Arora
2024-11-14  9:22   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15  4:59     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-28 14:33   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-29  5:03     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-29 14:22       ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-11-29 19:21         ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] sched: warn for high latency with TIF_NEED_RESCHED_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-11-14  9:16   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-14 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] RCU changes for PREEMPT_LAZY Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15  5:20   ` Ankur Arora

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